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July 10, 2012
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On my Palmer Mass 715-FB, the barrel is a little crooked.
What I mean, is that it looks like the barrel is screwed too far onto the frame, and when looking down the muzzle, the barrel is not straight up and down. You can also notice it when looking directly down onto the gun from a birds-eye view.
It doesn't seem to affect the shooting, and the sight does not have to be adjusted all the way to one side to get the gun on target. Bassically, what I'm saying, is that it is a cosmetic thing, and not a functional thing.
I will take some pics tonight to show just how bad it is.
Is there any way to fix this? Or not really?
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June 20, 2010
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Yea, definitely need some pics on the above.
If it shoots ok, doesn't sound like the barrel is misaligned, but maybe the shroud? When you look *into* the barrel from the muzzle end, is the recoil shield centered? Are the front or rear sights "significantly" adjusted off to one side? You may want to look at the sticky on how to check out a revolver:
July 10, 2012
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The barrel lines up perfectly with the cylinders, and everything is in line. The rear sight is centered in the adjustment, and the gun shoots P.O.A. meaning the sights are not totally adjusted one way or the other.
If you look at the muzzle of the gun, down the barrel, it just looks as though the barrel was tightened too hard into the frame, and is off by a couple degrees.
Pics will be up tonight of what I'm talking about.
BTW, it's a fixed barrel gun.
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March 2, 2008
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Too far into the frame might affect functioning, with the cylinder binding against the forcing cone. Correct barrel/cylinder gap for almost any revolver is about .002-.006".
If it hits what you're aiming for, you should be good. I have had some 15-2/715's where the rear sight needed to be adjusted pretty far off what looked like center to sight in accurately.
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April 20, 2010
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If it functions fine and shoots well like you said, I wouldnt do anything about it, especially if you didnt have to move the rear sight way over to compensate. Most people might not even notice it. If you did want to correct it, I would contact Keith at Dan Wesson directly, I would not let any old gunsmith try to mess with it.
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July 10, 2012
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Okay guys, here's some pics of it. I also took a pic of the rear sight to show where it is. The last time I took it out, some shots were spot on center target, and some were right / high right, but those are my fault due to not being use to a revolver and the DA pull. In SA, the shots were center target. Range was 10 yards.
As for the barrel / cylinder gap, the space looks okay. I have not put feeler gauges in it yet, but I know that my .013 thick business card does not fit between the barrel and the front of the cylinder. I work in a machine shop, so I am familiar with thousands of an inch, and just by looking at it, I am about 99% sure the gap is larger than .002.
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February 2, 2009
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Your problem isn't the barrel. it's the shroud that covers it. I believe that you have a shroud that's from a different factory than the gun, unless your gun is one of the Palmer's that drew complainst about fit and finish, then they may have come that way as that was a main reason for complaints about that plant. The good news is that it shoots well, and the reason that it's not the barrel or you would have problems. You might contact EWK and see if he can make a shroud that lines up with the frame better, otherwise I'd just shoot and enjoy it.
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April 20, 2010
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Looking at your pics, I still go with my earlier comments, since it shoots well it is purely cosmetic, therefore I would leave it as is and enjoy shooting it. If you did want to try to have it corrected I would contact Keith at Dan Wesson directly and send it there. I would not let anybody else mess with it since it is a fixed barrel, I think they require a special tool to remove or install.
I would keep it and shoot it, you got a great shooter at a nice price and 3" FBs are pretty cool and different. I doubt most guys would notice anyway.
-Lonwolf
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March 2, 2008
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I think it's fine just the way it is, an interchangeable barrel DW can have some of the same misalignment issues.
You see it because you're close to your "baby". If it it hits where you point it, no worries. Of course, if it REALLY bothers you, I guess I could take it off your hands 
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June 20, 2010
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+ 1 on what lonwolf93 said...
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March 27, 2009
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Shoot it and enjoy you have one that got out of the factory not perfect! Some where some one had a fixed barrel removed, made it into a normal Dan, as Steve said send it here if you can't stand it!
Thanks for the great pics! 
July 10, 2012
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Steve CT said:
I think it's fine just the way it is, an interchangeable barrel DW can have some of the same misalignment issues.
You see it because you're close to your "baby". If it it hits where you point it, no worries. Of course, if it REALLY bothers you, I guess I could take it off your hands
Thanks for the offer, but I am going to keep it. I love the gun too much to let a little flaw like this bother me.
Unfortunately, I am super OCD about some things, so this did bother me. Not anymore though, I learned to live with it, as I don't want to mess with it. Chalk it up to a "character mark".
Can't wait to shoot it again.
EDIT: The reason I was asking about how to fix it, was cause I was thinking about getting it Magna-Ported, but I have decided against it. If I was hell-bent on getting it ported, then I would get it fixed.
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August 28, 2009
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Glad you got it all worked out and you're ok with it. I would have put it on the chopping block.
July 10, 2012
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harly said
Glad you got it all worked out and you're ok with it. I would have put it on the chopping block.
I guess you are a little more OCD than I lol.
You would really sell this gun over that flaw?
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August 28, 2009
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I picked up a beautiful new, unfired 744VH pack about a year ago. It had one flaw in the frame that made it look very similar to yours, but it wasn't due to a misalligned shroud. When the frame was finished, they ground down the front of the topstrap too much on one side. So on one side where the vent rib meets the frame, the corner of the vent rib was above the top strap. On the other side, the corner of the vent rib was about 1/16" below the the top strap, where it normally should be. I really wanted to keep it, but just couldn't so it was served an eviction notice and was vacated from the safe.
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