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Back in time....D11, 12, W12.....
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SHOOTIST357
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Well I received my snubby porkchop barrel from forum member mycrobyte today LaughIt is in excellent condition.  I'm a 15 guy, but he and I attempted some history discussion, and I thought I would open it up here.  Let's start -  what's the difference between D and W models?  and what is the diff between a 12 and a W12?

My W12 barrel is polished blue and has a W on the rear of the shroud with the standard high sight.   the mycrobyte barrel has a D on the rear and is matte blue with a lower sight (I'm thinking this is a D11 barrel?).

Any input is appreciated; I'm wondering if I need to procure a W12 sight for the snubby shroud for it to shoot POA.

And of course...

W12 snubbyImage Enlarger

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Shoot- this is not really an answer to your question, but it is a link here on DWF detailing a substantial number of very early NIB guns and Packs that a seller made available here before auctioning them.

https://www.danwessonforum.com/?page_id=3/for-sale/low-number-dan-wesson-pork-chops-for-sale

I know that several of these found homes here. I think that the very early ones were D or W prefixes on the S/N, but the operative word is think

The guys that bought some of these will likely know more

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Steve CT said:

Shoot- this is not really an answer to your question, but it is a link here on DWF detailing a substantial number of very early NIB guns and Packs that a seller made available here before auctioning them.

https://www.danwessonforum.com/?page_id=3/for-sale/low-number-dan-wesson-pork-chops-for-sale

I know that several of these found homes here. I think that the very early ones were D or W prefixes on the S/N, but the operative word is think

The guys that bought some of these will likely know more


yep, I perused that link before I made this postLaugh  That's how I  came up with the 11 / D11 theory... Mine has a SERNO of 796X, pretty high up there...I think.

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Here is a link to the photos from that offering, there about 80 in all

/dwf-content/files/danwessonphotos.zip

Again, no real answers for your question, but I thought you would like to see some of the photos

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Steve CT said:

Here is a link to the photos from that offering, there about 80 in all

https://www.danwessonforum.com/dwf-content/files/danwessonphotos.zip

Again, no real answers for your question, but I thought you would like to see some of the photos


Awesome--I didn't see those earlier.  It is really cool to watch 80 photo's opening at once on your screen!

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When I was looking at Microbyte's for sale pics, I couldn't decide if that front sight was short or not. Your pic definitely tells me it's short.

Here's what I know so far about old 'Chops. This isn't concrete data set in stone, there may be some descrepancies here…but from the ones that I have personally, this is what I know.Wink

The -11- & D11 are service revolvers, with fixed sights & a low gloss finish. The rear sight is a separate part inserted into the frame, standing slightly above the frame. The front site is about 1/8″ shorter than the W12.

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The -12- and W12 are target revolvers, with adjustable sights & polished finish. The front sights are fairly tall. These guns are a -12- model.

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The first major change at DW sunk the barrel nut in the shroud, making it flush with the end. This brought us the Model 14-1 & 15-1.

I have a 14-1, it's a service revolver, with a low gloss finish & has the same exact sights as the D11 pictured above. A Model 15-1 will be a high gloss, with adjustable sights…I don't have one of those yet. :P

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The sight on your gun looks to me like it's even shorter than this Model 14, which I can't decide on a good answer as to why that would be. It may have been changed by someone in the past, for a sight from a longer barrel…maybe, I don't know just yet.

Hopefully after I do some more investigative buying, I'll have the answer.rofl

But yes, I think if you procured a front sight from a W12, you'd be shooting at POA. Nice looking 'Chop, BTW. 😀

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When I was looking at Microbyte's for sale pics, I couldn't decide if that front sight was short or not. Your pic definitely tells me it's short.

Here's what I know so far about old 'Chops. This isn't concrete data set in stone, there may be some descrepancies here…but from the ones that I have personally, this is what I know.Wink

The -11- & D11 are service revolvers, with fixed sights & a low gloss finish. The rear sight is a separate part inserted into the frame, standing slightly above the frame. The front site is about 1/8″ shorter than the W12.

[Image Can Not Be Found]

The -12- and W12 are target revolvers, with adjustable sights & polished finish. The front sights are fairly tall. These guns are a -12- model.

[Image Can Not Be Found]

The first major change at DW sunk the barrel nut in the shroud, making it flush with the end. This brought us the Model 14-1 & 15-1.

I have a 14-1, it's a service revolver, with a low gloss finish & has the same exact sights as the D11 pictured above. A Model 15-1 will be a high gloss, with adjustable sights…I don't have one of those yet. :P

[Image Can Not Be Found]

The sight on your gun looks to me like it's even shorter than this Model 14, which I can't decide on a good answer as to why that would be. It may have been changed by someone in the past, for a sight from a longer barrel…maybe, I don't know just yet.

Hopefully after I do some more investigative buying, I'll have the answer.rofl

But yes, I think if you procured a front sight from a W12, you'd be shooting at POA. Nice looking 'Chop, BTW. :D


I like the investigative buying ideaLaugh  I just got an e-mail  from a guy selling a porkchop with what he says is a 5" barrel.  He wants $275 firm.  I don't have any pics or a model yet, but I'm going to go take a look at it! (and I'll probably be bringing it home!)

BTW, nice to see some other 14's out there... I have 2 of them.

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$275 sounds like it's a sweet deal already.Cool

Since you have multiple DW's you should take some pics of those babies & show 'em off in the "Member's Collections" area. We'd love to see the family.Laugh

I forgot to mention a couple things. The -11- & -12- were the first DW's made, they changed shortly after S/N 1616 to D11 & W12...don't know exactly when yet.Wink

And the D11's were available in .38 Spl & .357. Mine is a .38 Spl.

Oh & there were some factory nickel guns from the get-go, too.

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SHOOTIST357 said:

Steve CT said:

Here is a link to the photos from that offering, there about 80 in all

https://www.danwessonforum.com/dwf-content/files/danwessonphotos.zip

Again, no real answers for your question, but I thought you would like to see some of the photos


Awesome–I didn't see those earlier.  It is really cool to watch 80 photo's opening at once on your screen!

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SHOOT- You probably would not have ever found that link, it's part of the Dan Wesson Collection (DWCA)  Forum. This is an area available to DWCA Members, more info here

http://dwcollectors.org/

Take a look, you may be a Collector Laugh

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Steve CT said:

SHOOTIST357 said:

Steve CT said:

Here is a link to the photos from that offering, there about 80 in all

https://www.danwessonforum.com/dwf-content/files/danwessonphotos.zip

Again, no real answers for your question, but I thought you would like to see some of the photos


Awesome–I didn't see those earlier.  It is really cool to watch 80 photo's opening at once on your screen!

SHOOT


SHOOT- You probably would not have ever found that link, it's part of the Dan Wesson Collection (DWCA)  Forum. This is an area available to DWCA Members, more info here

http://dwcollectors.org/

Take a look, you may be a Collector Laugh


I've been told by many of my friends that there is a fine line between a collector and an ACCUMULATOR Laugh.  I have a bunch of handguns up for sale right now in an effort to thin out 20+ years of collecting.

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Hey Shoot,

You are more than welcome to post non Dan Wesson items for sale in the classified section.

I think I'm an accumulator! occasion

 
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