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dogzebra
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My first encounter with a Dan Wesson Revolver is in the form of my latest purchase, A High Standard MKIII.  Amazing revolver at the least.  Mine has been rarely fired in the past 40+ years.  

I was wondering, is there a 12 point socket head barrel nut made that'll replace the pin wrench nut?  The thin shrouded muzzle looks susceptible to holster wear and not much material is protecting the barrel's crown.

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The only aftermarket barrel nut that I am familiar with is from EWK, which is the same design as OEM, but with four wrench indentations instead of the factory two.

http://ewkarms.com/zen8/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_4&products_id=6

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Do not want to sound stupid here. What is a High Standard MKIII Dan Wesson. I will admit I am no expert on DWs, but what is it?

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carbineone1964 said
What is a High Standard MKIII Dan Wesson. I will admit I am no expert on DWs, but what is it?  

It is not a Dan Wesson Model. Dan Wesson manufactured the MKIII (basically a 15-2) for High Standard, who marketed and sold it.

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HS MK 11 and MK 111 ( same as DW 14-1 and 15-1 ) are both internal nut designs.  How could a 12 point socket head barrel nut be used with the internal design?  I cannot see how it is possible.

Even if the effort was made to fabricate a 12 point barrel nut I cannot envision a 12 point socket with thin enough walls allowing clearance within the shroud to get the socket on the nut.

If the original barrel nut is damaged, get a new nut and a quality nut wrench.   Tractor torque is not  necessary on the barrel nut.  

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Thanks I found an old Thread discussing these High Standards here.

 

Now I am going to have to watch the local Shows and see if I can pick up a inexpensive example.

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The HS mkii is identical to a DW model 14-1, the mkiii is the same gun as a DW model 15-1. The only difference is the roll marks and the rear sight of a mkiii is made by High Standard. Be aware that High Standard did not sell extra barrel assemblies. Fortunately DW barrel assemblies of the aforementioned models fit. Becareful not to buy model 14 and 15 barrel assemblies. They will not shoot to point of aim. The rear sights of the earlier models are higher as are the front sights. If you use them on a HS the gun will shoot low.

   As far as the crown of the barrel being damaged by holstering, I have never heard of it. Dan Wesson seemed to not think the crown of the barrel was not important to accuracy. The important thing is the end of the barrel be even. I think that is not a problem with a barrel tube. If in fact it does get damaged or shot out, the barrel can be changed in 2 minutes with little expense compared to sending a gun back to the factory or, God forbid, to a gunsmith. Rebarreling a gun, even if done by the factory, reduces the value of a gun and can affect its accuracy. Except for Dan Wessons. 

   As far as a 12 sided nut, consider that the DW 14,15,14 -1, 15-1 and the High Standards have barrel tubes a 1/4" shorter  than 14-2 and 15-2. You could use the longer barrel and put the 12 sided nut on after using an interior nut. 

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In one pic it shows trash accumulation trapped between the barrel shroud and pin nut.

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Twelve point barrel nuts did exist in earlier production Dan Wesson revolvers.  I believe the following are pics of the Model W12. 

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The first Dans, models 11 and 12 had the 12 sided exterior nut. The shroud wall was thicker. Within one year the interior nut debuted. Most found the exterior nut ugly. The models 14 and 15 had the same length shroud but the barrel tube was 1/4" shorter and ended flush with the shroud. Despite the shroud wall being thinner to accommodate the interior nut I have never seen the metal worn away from holster ING. Blueing yes, metal no. However, I have seen damage to the muzzle end of the shroud from mishandling. The crown is actually safe.

  There was only one 12 sided nut in the 3 barrel pistol pack of the first models. Only 10,000 were made, hence they are one of the rarest DW  items. The Wesson sons were making replacement nuts for a while. They were made on a CNC machine instead of MIM. They can occasionally be found on eBay. If you feel you must protect the barrel crown I would get a full length tube and use a 12 sided nut on the quarter inch sticking out from the shroud. Use the interior nut too. 

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Ruger gave this Security Six plenty of chamfer in its crown.

The High Standard looks more like a straight saw cut.

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Now this Alaskan crown is more to my liking.

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