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Cylinder coming off??? new to Dan Wesson. HELP
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January 26, 2011 - 7:46 pm
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I'm pretty new here, and new to Dan Wesson revolvers.

My 357 model 15 had a weird thing happen.  I've barely gotten 200 rounds through it.  After 10 or so rounds, a piece of metal fell off.  I have it.  It's about 1/4 inch long from the side.  From the end view it's looks like a 1/2 circle.

I opened the cylinder, and it no longer being held on.  The cylinder slides back and forth, freely, that's not right.

At home and and removed the cylinder, and searching for pics etc…  What hold the crane in place????  Any thread or pics you can point to will be a big help.

I'm not yet familiar witht this forum and the interface, and am having trouble searching, finding stickies etc…

HELP!!!

I'm kinda bummed out.  But hopefull.

 

Thanks in advance for any info, links etc…  I don't have the knack for navigating around here yet.

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The cylinder stop has fallen out. This is a small tab that was originally part of the sideplate, and stops the cylinder from sliding rearward when ejecting empty cartridge cases. You will see a small hole in the sideplate where the cylinder stop can be press fit back into place. It was originally integral to the sideplate, but this piece has a history of breaking (happened on mine) to the extent that DW/CZ now has a replcement part that can be purchased to replace a lost one. I actually suggest you buy a spare in case yours gets lost forever.

A permanent solution is to get another sideplate with the cylinder stop in place. Some people have reported securing that little piece back in place with locktite or glue. If you do so, make sure it is secured ONLY to the sideplate and not to the frame.

More here:

https://www.danwessonforum.com/?page_id=3/parts-and-service/cylinder-stop/

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Thanks, what a relief.  I see where it goes.  Will order a couple and try some glue or locktite.

Back to the range tomorrow.

Lovin' this gun.

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I have hunted for that little sucker on the floor of many shooting ranges. Gave the gun to my son some time ago, and he finally lost the cylinder stop in the mud in Idaho, I think.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

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I picked up a parts gun with this missing! Had another side plate found they must be machined to each frame.  It is on it after some grinding and fitting.  Will post pics of a beater now (as soon as i get my high speed up and running). 

 

Good luck with the repair and let us know how it goes!

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I put it back in with some glue.  At first it wasn't all the way in.  So it came out again.  Think it's good now.  Will be shooting againg this weekend.

 

Thanks for the help guys.

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I don't believe this was ever a separate part. It breaks off the sideplate on some guns, and DW produced a replacement piece as a "service" item to reduce the issues with sideplate replacement.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Some of the stops are pressed in, and some of them are machined into the sideplate.  Just depends what vintage the gun is.

Maybe we should attempt to figure out sideplate styles vs. serial numbers also Wink

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SHOOTIST357 said:

Some of the stops are pressed in, and some of them are machined into the sideplate.  Just depends what vintage the gun is.


Exactly.     Here's some examples...
 

Early design;

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Later design (two pics because it's sometimes hard to see in the ancestoral bluingLaugh )

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I agree that it would be good to figure out when they made this change. I'm fairly certain it was about the same time they went to "357D-or-SD00001" style s/n's. Maybe around '88, acording to our Registry list?

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SHOOTIST357 said:

Some of the stops are pressed in, and some of them are machined into the sideplate.  Just depends what vintage the gun is.

Maybe we should attempt to figure out sideplate styles vs. serial numbers also Wink

SHOOT


I'm not saying that this is not a correct statement, but has anyone ever seen a parts diagram that shows this as a separate piece? If you're saying that this was a sort of "subassembly" thing, and it was always intended to be a complete part, I guess I get that. There is a clear difference in the different generations of the sideplate, I had always thought this was simply a poorly engineered/maunfactured part that broke or failed cleanly at a weak point.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Has anyone recently purchased a replacement stop from DW? I need one and was wondering if they are still available and if they come blued or in the white?

 

Thanks

 

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I purchased one less than 6-months ago and they are still available.

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Steve CT said:

SHOOTIST357 said:

Some of the stops are pressed in, and some of them are machined into the sideplate.  Just depends what vintage the gun is.

Maybe we should attempt to figure out sideplate styles vs. serial numbers also Wink

SHOOT


I'm not saying that this is not a correct statement, but has anyone ever seen a parts diagram that shows this as a separate piece? If you're saying that this was a sort of "subassembly" thing, and it was always intended to be a complete part, I guess I get that. There is a clear difference in the different generations of the sideplate, I had always thought this was simply a poorly engineered/maunfactured part that broke or failed cleanly at a weak point.
 


I haven't seen an actual separate part number for the offending piece, but that doesn't mean that DW isn't aware of the age-old problem that may theoretically haunt them for all time.lol2 I would guess that any of the parts diagrams released to the public would probably only say that the sideplate is only available as as unit. That way, they can eventually & hopefully supercede all the probematic bad cylinder stops with one-piece designs that work after "x" amount of time.

Of course, the SM's & large frames have used that style since...well...the first large frame was produced, I believe.Smile So it must be a good design.Wink 

Here are a couple decent shots of a missng cylinder stop, for reference... 

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I've had at least two Model 15-2's with the pressed in cylinder stop. My first DW's came out the first time I shot it. I ended up peening it a little bit with a bunch and using stud mount loctite to put it in there permanently. On the later design, there really is no way it could "break".

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