Guys, the following was posted over on the Firing Line by paul84043 and thought it was worthy of sharing. Here is the link to he entire thread.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406573&page=2
Here's an interesting story, and a testament to the quality of a Dan Wesson Revolver.
4th of July 2003, my daughter, then about 18, brings a friend of her boyfriend over so that I can "look at his gun".
Okay, the guys my daughter dates are idiots so I had tp be prepared for anything….I wasn't.
They show up and the friend named "Dub" probably because it only had one syllable and three letters and that's all that these morons could remember, pulls out a very nice 6-8" ish (didn't measure it) .357 Dan Wesson Revolver. I recognized it immediately and wondered who they had stolen it from or traded drugs for it, becasue it wasn't your run of the mill gangbanger .25 auto and I knew there was no way on god's green earth this idiot paid for this gun.
Anyway, they informed me that they had taken it shooting and there seemed to be something stuck in the barrel. I looked and they were shooting Winchester White box 125gr hollow points. I regularly used these at practice, they were very nice rounds, pretty hot, very accurate with a fantastic sound and an awesome muzzle flash…
This is what was in the barrel.
This is what we did next….
I think you can see where this is going….
We not only pulled two bullets out, we pulled out FOUR.
The only thing I can figure is that they had a squib, and that the subsequent three rounds stacked up behind the first WITHOUT the barrel exploding and seriously maiming everyone around….that's pretty impressive. They were dang lucky they were shooting a high quality handgun and not some cheap piece of junk, or I'd be picking my daughter up at the emergency room at best…
Here's what the barrel looked like….
You can clearly see that the barrel did bulge with each round, there are two that you can't see in the picture…it's amazing it held together at all.
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May 2, 2009
That is awesome ... I had a squib in my Colt trooper once--jacketed bullet... it was wedged so tight I had to drill out everything except the jacket to get it out...
For future reference-- a section of aluminum arrow fits perfectly inside a 357 barrel as a drill guide to avoid damaging the rifling...
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January 22, 2008
It's why we love our Dan Wessons
I had a bullet lodge in the barrel of an FN PS90. The bullet was stuck bad. I couldn't drive it out with an aluminum cleaning rod, nor with a brass rod. I sent the rifle to FN who, after a 9 month wait, replaced it. Apparently the chrome lining in the barrel had failed and caused the bullet to stick.
I hate to think what might have happened if I was rapid firing the rifle and not counting the rounds. The PS90 is a little "Bull-Pup" and that barrel is fairly close to the operators face when in firing position.
-Wayne
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January 24, 2009
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November 17, 2008
Charger, I was thinking the same thing about removing the barrel.
As far as squib loads go I believe the # one cause is sloppy reloading. A cartridge with a primer and no powder will almost always send a slug part way down the barrel but not out the other end. I am sure other factors can cause it also, ( bad powder, wrong charge, bad bullet) the possibilities are endless. I had one during a silhouette match once in my TC 30 Herrett. I realised what happened cleared the barrel and finished the bank under time, I kept a wooden dowell in my shootin tray for just that purpose, but I shutter to think what if Ihad just shoved in another round and fired, as the pistol chamber lays firmly against my leg when firing. Any time I have a round go snap or just not sound quite right, I check to be sure the barrel is clear.
LB
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January 24, 2009
I could totally see sloppy reloading as the main cause of such a condition. This guy said thery were using factory ammo, but who knows what they ran trough it the previous time? They could have been using some bad reloads & buggered the barrel, then didn't check it out before firing these factory loads.
I've often wondered if a bad case of lead fouling could cause it too. That's some of the reason why I like to get my barrels squeaky clean after a range trip...squib paranoia.
One thing's for sure, your TC 30 Herret story shows why it's important to pay attention to what's going on & not just keep blazing away.
October 26, 2008
Charger Fan said:
I've often wondered if a bad case of lead fouling could cause it too. That's some of the reason why I like to get my barrels squeaky clean after a range trip...squib paranoia.
CF
I shoot lead (home cast) almost exclusively(Jacketed for hunting sometimes) and have never had a barrel lead up so bad that it would get lodged in the barrel, Accuracy usually falls off bad enough that I run a boresnake down the barrel and go back to lettin the lead fly. I'd say bad reloads are the main cause of this one.
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November 17, 2008
Zundfolge said:
OP said it was factory ammo ... Winchester White Box ... so I'm guessing a bad load (but not a RE load :p )
Most likely. Even with great QC the big boys are bound to goof up once in a while. Maybe it was a hurry up Friday, or a hangover Monday when that cartridge was made.
LB
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