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Dan Wesson Model 15-2VH
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September 23, 2010 - 9:46 pm
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Steve CT said:

CF-That's what my extra crane/cylinder looks like, I've never used it, now I probably never will.


Sounds like a good reason to get yourself a Porkchop frame to go with your crane!Big Grin

I bet the cylinder will still interchange with the -2's, although I haven't had a reason to try it just yet.

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September 24, 2010 - 9:24 pm
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bulletproof said:

 

   It looks very similar to the top pic that Blacktop posted above.   Only mine doesn't have a hole in the end, no spring, and the" Boss", I believe yawl called it, is shorter.

 


Only thing I can think is that your spring is missing and the plunger is stuck

in the hole.

 

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September 24, 2010 - 9:26 pm
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bulletproof said:

 

  A pic is really worth a 1000 words.


Yes it is ! Lots of if's and maybe's ......without pics it's almost impossible to

figure what's going on here.

 

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September 25, 2010 - 12:44 am
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I'll post my pics if I can ever get the software to upload them.   But, there is no hole there.

 

I got my 15-2 sent off to DW today.   And, I pointed out for them to look for a missing spring on the crank, if there's one supposed to be there at all.   I told them I didn't know if a spring is supposed to be there or not, but, to let me know.   So, when I know I'll let yawl know.

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September 26, 2010 - 12:40 am
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Trying to post 3 pics.  I'll just try this one for now, since unsure if I can do 3 at one time.   Look at the crane, and tell me if it is like I said yesterday?


 

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Inside of side plate.   Do you think it looks gunked up for 34 years?

 

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I don't know why the previous post didn't have the + and – zoom in & out

as the first one did.?   I'll try one more for now, I've got 3 more if you

want them later.?

 

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Well, sorry, the 3rd. one didn't post correctly either, as the 1st. one did.  

At photobucket,  I didn't see (Choose files button) and I didn't get the option of

(be sure to choose the “640X480 (Large)” size in the “Reduce to:” drop down bucket, either.

Maybe that's why the last 2 didn't post correctly?  

I don't know what happened, but, at least I tried.   Maybe yawl can see what I was

trying to describe the other day in my posts.  

 

Do yawl agree with me now about my crane being different?  

 

Well, the last pic, and some of the text is too far to the right.   It was so all of the

picture and text could be seen before I clicked to post this.   Anybody know what

happened, or know how to move the picture and text over to the left, for better

viewing?

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What is the name of the horseshoe shaped part, above and to the left of the trigger, and, the crane would be touching it, if the crane was inserted?   That part isn't listed in my parts diagram.

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–The piece you are talking about is the cylinder stop bolt (stops cylinder from turning)The "horseshoe" is the crane lock (The piece you are missing) If I remember right, they are $16 from DW/CZ.  I believe you spring and plunger are stuck in the end of the crane–hence no hole.  Grab the tip and pull it out.

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bulletproof said:

Inside of side plate.   Do you think it looks gunked up for 34 years?

 


here's your pic..
 

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Not gunked up, but it is dry–give it a good hose down with some WD-40, followed by a good oiling.

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Yes, the bolt plunger and spring look to be jammed into the lower arm of the crane. Since the bolt plunger is not contacting the bolt this would mean that the bolt is not locking the cylinder correctly. Going back to the original post, the firing pin is hitting the base of the cartridge case (misfires) or off center on the primer (in a random fashion). Also, with the cylinder slightly off center to the bore axis, you will get the shaving of fragments as the bullet enters the forcing cone. Actually, a very easy fix.

Did the cylinder falling out begin to happen after the local gunsmith had it?

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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September 26, 2010 - 11:34 am
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bulletproof said:

I don't know why the previous post didn't have the + and – zoom in & out as the first one did.?


Got ya fixed up.Wink After you attach your pic link, go down & choose "middle"...this will position the pic correctly & allow the software enough time to set the resizing feature.

 

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Oh & I agree, your plunger does appear to be jammed inside the crane.Smile DW should have it running great for ya in no time.Range Time

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September 26, 2010 - 9:15 pm
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Mystery solved !  occasion

Now we wait to hear how it runs when you get it back ! Uzi

 

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Steve CT said:   Did the cylinder falling out begin to happen after the local gunsmith had it?  Yes, he said a piece had broken off sometime or another, but, he did not do it.

 SHOOTIST357 said:    Grab the tip and pull it out.   I tried pulling it out, before I returned it to the DW factory.   It doesn't come out.   In my description of problems letter that I sent back with the gun, I asked them if mine is even suppose to have a spring or not, and to let me know.   When I find out I'll post here.

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September 26, 2010 - 9:39 pm
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It sure looks like the bolt plunger is jammed into that crane. The diameter of the plunger and the hole in the crane (on mine, at least) is not so tight that it will happen easily. It will be interesting to find out the diagnosis.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Well, this is the first one that I've ever seen, so I'm definitely no authority on the subject, but, by the same token, my examination didn't provide any sign of a hole there.   It appears to be one solid piece.

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September 27, 2010 - 6:26 am
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I will bet what has happen is that the previous owner, for one reason or another,

opened up the side plate and was tinkering around. He or she removed the

cylinder and did not pay attention how it went back together. Now lets keep

our fingers crossed that they jammed the spring under the plunger and not

something stupid like glue that plunger in there Confused.

Then your Smith was working on this for you and had the side plate off while

cocking the hammer to see if he could find a timing issue. That is when the

cranelock fell out into the palm of his left hand and he had no idea where

it came from. If you did not know better the "C-clip" that is used for a cranelock

dose look something like a broken ring.

I am going to take a guess here, by the looks of the internals, that your gun

has not been shot very much and should be an easy fix for Keith at CZ/DW.

 

Here's your pic and SHOOT'S pic and you can see that the plunger is there and

is the same but yours is pushed in so it looks like there is no hole.

 

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Blacktop said:  I will bet what has happen is that the previous owner,

 

I bought it new in 1976, no other owner but me.

 

-Blacktop


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Well, at least we are sure you ARE supposed to have a spring in there, as you definitely have a 15-2, and the plunger is just stuck so tightly it doesn't just fall out like it normally would with the spring pushing it. I bet the spring is in there and it's just jammed. If the smith you had taken it to knew anything about DW's, your gun would have been fixed in a couple of minutes, at most. All he would have probably needed to do is pull the plunger out, and replace the spring, and maybe the plunger itself, and put the gun back together and that's it.  I've never seen a revolver as easy to work on as a DW is, and it's hard for me to believe a smith who is able to work on an S&W wouldn't be able to figure out the DW innards, as it's a much simpler design than an S&W. I put together a 15-2 from a box of parts while eating lunch in my car about 20 years ago. Took less than a half hour, and about half of that was eating. That box of parts was my best deal ever, inside was a whole gun (In parts), a bunch of barrels and shrouds, new and used, and a ton of springs, bolts, etc, for $50!! I still have some of the parts, but I sold the gun and barrels long ago. If only I had them now, they're worth over twice what they were when I sold them.

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