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Dans Club
March 25, 2013
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Razorface, the number is on the right side of the frame. Only the First Issue logo is under the grip. It is a First Issue frame. They are the only ones without frame pin heads on the right side.
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June 11, 2016
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Thanks for the help Ole Dog and clarification.
Dans Club
December 7, 2020
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You can check with Dan Wesson directly. If they do not have the SER# on file, it is "pre-CZ", then it may be a 2nd run. If they do have the SER# on file, then it was a plastic cased pac made by DW after CZ bought them out, and someone switched to that case.
October 17, 2023
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No need to call DW. Frame has first issue marking. Barrels do not have the markings. Hoping to find out they stopped marking the barrels on some pacs. I Can hope right?
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March 28, 2023
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I sure wish I could buy one of these rare pac's! Never seen one come up for sale. I'm sure a real one with correct barrels would cost $$$$$ Why would people break up such a rare pac? They had to know with numbered barrels there are rare even when first sold. I noticed though the barrels that were bought to replace the numbered barrels were pre CZ barrels I think since they are different roll marks. They have that long hand cursive looking roll marks. I also have seen very few of those types of barrels come up for sale. so I take it after Bob bought the company they made very few revolvers and even fewer pac's!
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Dans Club
March 25, 2013
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They made a good amount of revolvers in all frame sizes and calibers. Enough that they were no longer First Issues. When CZ bought the company they only continued to make 715s and that started and stopped twice before the revolver production ended. The big production stopped with Monson guns before the Palmer years. Palmer production slowed in the end before the sale in 1995/96 to Serva. It took him about 5 years to get moved and tooled up in Norwich. Still, production was a pittance compared to 70s and 80s production. Revolver sales of all makes had a hard time also. First Semi autos became the rage and then Glock and other polymer guns destroyed the wonder nine market.
October 17, 2023
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Are the barrels older or newer then the frame? I am guessing newer since first issue was first,,,then regular guns produced,, but would these barrels also fit other frames made in Monson or Palmer or CZ?
February 16, 2016
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Monson Pork Chop Barrel Assemblies only fit Pork Chop frames. You can also get an adapter to fit later style shrouds to a Pork Chop frame. All later style shrouds will fit Monson non-Pork Chop frames and Palmer / Norwich frames. Of course there is also the different front sight heights between the Fixed Sight 14-1, -2 models and Taget Sight 15-1, -2 models to consider.
I think that covers it.
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Dans Club
March 25, 2013
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Except for the 36 Smith & Wesson /Dan Wesson prototype hybrids the Bob Serva produce just before the sale to CZ. Instead of the roll pin that fits into the shroud to locate it, they have a tang type arraignment in the top rail. Unfortunate, because no extra barrel assemblies are possible except with expert machine shop work. And it would not be factory.
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