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May 3, 2011
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I kind of know the answer to this question, but I want you guys input. I purchased this DW that was sold as a model 9. It has a 38 CTG shroud and has a new looking barrel. However it chambers a 357 mag. with no problem. So I feel this is a mod. 15. The cylinder length is the same as my .357 mag cylinder length. Note also that this cylinder holds 6 rounds. My other .38s hold only 5 rounds. How many rounds does the model 9 hold? I'm trying to understand why they put a 38 CTG shroud on the 15 frame?. It came in a box that is marked as a mod. 9 with the correct s/n. I told the gun store to call the guy up and see if he accidentally mixed up the frames. No response yet.
Those of you that have a model 9, is the cylinder a regular .38 spl length cylinder, ie.; it wont accept a .357 CTG. And how many cartridges does it hold? You know its really hard to find any information on the Mod. 9. I really like the pistol, but I don't need another mod. 15 frame. The .38 ctg shroud is the same size as the .357 mag shrouds. What do you guys think I should do. Here are a couple of pics. Oh! Does anyone have a model 9 .38 frame they would part with? 
Dans Club
March 2, 2008
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My vote is for a 15-2 with a .38 shroud and some pretty clear Magic Marker editing to make it a Model 9. If it chambers .357 (and with that S/N, I think) it's a 15-2.
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
George Carlin
February 11, 2010
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PM Shootist357 I think he has or had two of the model nines at one
time. I bet he can answer those questions.
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May 3, 2011
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I think the DW manual says that the .38 cal DWs only take a .38 ctg and won't accept a .357 mag. That would make sense to me.
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January 24, 2009
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I would assume that either the cylinder or shroud has been changed at some point, my money is on the shroud. I don't recall if model 9's had a box label that was "model 9 specific", maybe Shoot can answer that one.
The only 5-shot .38 that DW made was the Lil Dan, the model 738P. All others were 6-shot. If you want to make an official model 9, you could send it to DW & have them make you a .38 cylinder for it. Perfecto!
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May 2, 2009
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E-mail sent -- it appears you have a 15-2 with a model 9 shroud. I can hook you up with a 15-2 shoud in exchange.
I think I'm the only model 9 on the forum.
SHOOT
May 3, 2011
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SHOOTIST357 said:
E-mail sent -- it appears you have a 15-2 with a model 9 shroud. I can hook you up with a 15-2 shoud in exchange.
I think I'm the only model 9 on the forum.
SHOOT
Thanks for the input Shoot. I noted you said, "The model 9 holds 6 ctg too." Thats interesting. Next question: Just curious, Are the dimensions of the 38 cyl the same as the 357 cal. cylinder ie.; the length and O.D. diameter of the cylinder? Meaning only the cylinder chamber holes are cut to a .38 cal.?
I tried to check the archives on DWF. I couldn't find anything on the model 8 or 9. Even the Internet doesn't tell you anything about the model 8 or 9. I'm still waiting on a reply from the gun shop about the owner. I am hoping he mixed the frames up, but I kind of doubt it. If I traded the shroud/barrel I would like to put it toward a 6" or 8" EH Shroud/barrel. Thanks again Shoot.
Dans Club
March 2, 2008
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Without having one of each in hand to measure, I would guess that the dimension of the cylinder is the same, the chambers have probably been reamed differently.
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
George Carlin
May 3, 2011
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I received a message from Shoot. He said, "The cylinders are the same as the .357, they are just bored for the .38. Well I'm learning a lot about the model 9 DW. They are identical to the .357 in every way except for the cylinder bore dia. and the 38 ctg shroud.
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January 24, 2009
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The model 8 & 9 cylinders should measure the same as the 15-2 on the outside, the only difference should be the final reamed depth as Steve stated. I've got a pair of Porkchop model 14's…the top one in the first pic is .38 Spl & the other is .357 Mag, these were available back then as the same model with no differentiation of actual model names. Here's a BIGGER shot of the first one.
And trust me, the .38 gun will only chamber a .38 Spl round because it's chambers are not reamed (bored) as deep as the .357 Mag cylinder. On the outside, they look identical.
Dans Club
October 17, 2008
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Charger Fan, NICE Case !!!
May 3, 2011
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Thanks for the information Charger. I'm really getting an education on the model 8 an 9. I had showed it to L.B. and he thought the same thing. I was talking to L.B. this morning and we talked about the DWF. This forum is probably the only repository of extensive DW history and archives out there. And what a great bunch of guys we have here. Thanks to all that helped answer my question. This is another golden nugget of information for the books.
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