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M-40 Finally here! Pic's posted but not a photographer
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The only marks are on the very front outer edge of the cyl. face and these also wrap around to the outside of the cyl. as well. I can understand the score marks on the cyl. face as that is were it was rubbing on the barrel stub, but what would cause the rub marks to extend to the outside of the cyl. as well?

All in all not a bad find for $375! smile Oh, and it's a monson too!!

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freestate101 said:

what would cause the rub marks to extend to the outside of the cyl. as well?

 

As you rotate the cylinder in the frame, look for some kind of interference where the cylinder is hitting the frame. Is the cylinder marked consistently all the way around or just in certain spots?

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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It is marked all the way around, however the markings are more pronounced on one half of the cyl. .

Could the crane or ejector rod be bent?

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It sounds like someone set the barrel gap too tight. Many of the cylinder faces on Monson guns aren't completely true & even, so the idea is to set the B/C gap at the tightest point on the cylinder.

Congrats on yourgtdw and thanks for thecool-pics

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$375  ?   Scared

 

 

You really stole that ! Congrats occasion

 

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Thanks blacktop, I'll have to take some 600 grit emery cloth and see if I can minimize some of the scoring on the face and leading edge of the cyl. and then apply some cold blue to cover it. I don't want to have to reblue the complete cyl. as it would most likely not match the origional. Also, there seems to be a bit more cyl. play when locked up than I'd like to see, both rotational and fore/aft movement.

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freestate101 said:

It is marked all the way around, however the markings are more pronounced on one half of the cyl. .

Could the crane or ejector rod be bent?

Watch closely from a side view as you rotate the cylinder in the frame window. You my see it rotate unevenly as it goes around, which might indicate a bent crane. You are kind of looking for the gaps around the cylinder (top, bottom, both ends) to be uneven or changing as it rotates.

And $375 is a REAL nice price

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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freestate101 said:

Thanks blacktop, I'll have to take some 600 grit emery cloth and see if I can minimize some of the scoring on the face and leading edge of the cyl. and then apply some cold blue to cover it. I don't want to have to reblue the complete cyl. as it would most likely not match the origional. Also, there seems to be a bit more cyl. play when locked up than I'd like to see, both rotational and fore/aft movement.

First, make sure the front to back movement is not you forcing back against

the cylinder alignment ball in the back frame. This is a common thing

new DW owners mistake as end play. Just grab the cylinder with finger

and thumb and lightly check front to back, no pressure needed, if it's

got play it will slide with little to no effort.

 

Next, the cylinder will have front to back movement when the cylinder

and crane are in the in the open position, because of this and the fact

that the 357 max has a very tight .002 barrel to cylinder gap it is very

common for the front of the edge of the cylinder to hit the edge of the

barrel as the cylinder is being closed.  At full lock up the ejector rod

bushing sets against the frame and helps align the cylinder in the proper

position.

 

Because of this movement right before lockup it is possible previous

owner was making some quick reloads and agressively closing the cylinder

resulting in the scoring of the cylinder edge you mentioned.

 

Maybe you got other things going on and none of this relates to what

your stating but worth a check.

 

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Thanks Blacktop, I'll check these tomorrow after work and post results.

 

Jim

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You got a great deal, The slotted light shroud was an optional extra, originally sold to insure the DW made weight in the IHSMA competition.  The heavy shroud models were close to max wt., and if optional grips or sights were added, they might go over.  You've also got the partridge sight up front, these came in different heights and are slightly lower than the wider standard sight with the plastic insert.  They were designed to give POA at 100yd and over, for ram shooting.  Congrats on your score.  Be sure to use heavy slugs, 170gr or heavier, as the original guns came with 2 barrels after a problem with forcing cones wearing out, turned out to be owners putting in 125gr bullets and shooting them at 2000+fps, which causes premature wear on the cone and flame cutting on the top strap, also why Ruger discontinued their 357max, but many properly cared for Rugers are still around and competing.range-timecool-pics

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Thanks for the kind words robhof. I thought I was getting a good deal on a standard M40, but instead got a great deal on an upgraded one.

I know the Rugers are still around as I had an offer for a trade on the Rem 660 I was offering, but the cash difference the owner wanted was more than I could afford.

It was the top of the line 10" model with globe front sight and aperture rear with custom walnut grips. I didn't look as if it had ever been fired as there were no locking pawl markings on the cyl.

I believe the DW will serve me very nicely, buy man is it heavy!

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Great deal on that one! Another gtdw! You have the "true" IHMSA original Model 40...the 8" slotted shroud and the Patridge front sight. No IHMSA shooter would be caught dead with a red ramp front sight.

The Savantist

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Awesome gun, awesome find!!! Congrats on your beautiful DW!!

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Thank you all for your kind words and great info., this is a great site!

 

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