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May 13, 2014
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First, hello!
I made my introduction in the new member section and this is my first post here. I tried searching for this, and I went through every page in the picture forum, and went through 100 pages of this section and I only found a couple posts that made reference to a thread on here somewhere that some members actually made a 15-2 carbine. I cannot for the life of me find those threads.
I did see a post someone made and erroneously stated that once you convert a pistol to a rifle you can never change it back unless you get a stamp and register it as an SBR. I certainly do not want to come across as being argumentative seeing this is my first real post over here, but this isn't true. I went though a very lengthy and often heated discussion on this over on another site and finally I got some straight answers on NFATalk.org, as well as actual references and rulings by the BATF and Supreme Court. I have a Beretta U22 NEOS pistol that has a carbine conversion kit, and I was concerned about this very topic so I did a ton of checking on it. Yes you can convert a pistol to a rifle and then back to a pistol, BUT you have to do it in a very specific way. The biggest thing to follow is you can NEVER install the rear stock with any barrel shorter than 16", so the first thing you must do (and what I have to do with my Beretta) is to install the carbine barrel first, and then install the rear stock. When going back to pistol you must remove the rear stock first and then the carbine barrel. Also under no circumstances should you have the rear stock in the case with the pistol without having the carbine barrel with you as well. That would be construed as the 'intent' to build an SBR and most likely would get you arrested.
Okay time for a breather! 
May 13, 2014
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All that background said... why is the longest barrel for the 15-2 15"? My guess is the whole SBR thing, 16 inches constitutes a rifle, and a rifle must 1. have a barrel at least 16" AND 2. it must have an overall length of at least 26". So I assume the concern from the companies that make replacement barrels is that they will end up in court, but even that doesn't hold up because I can buy a 16" barrel for a 1911 right now with no special paperwork or stamps.
Does anyone out there make a 16" barrel and shroud? I can make a rear stock, but if there is a company that makes that too I would be very interested in that as well!
Here is a picture I found on this site, there is another one but I lost the link to that.
[IMG]http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/wbassett/Bullpups/pix686897522-2_zps15480b85.jpg[/img]
Does anyone know who on here has done a conversion and where I might find those threads? This would be the ultimate pack gun for camping and hiking... pistol as your side arm in a holster, and then the carbine stock and barrel in your pack... ten minute swap and you have a nice little .357 carbine
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November 17, 2008
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I get asked about twice a year to build the stocks for a DW carbine. (I can) I always ask the person if they understand the laws concerning this (I don't) and have they thought about what the cylinder blast will do to their arm or hand if misplaced. I also ask if they have a 16"+ barrel. I have never heard back from anyone yet. That convinces me that while feasible and "probably" legal the DW carbine is not practical or cost effective.
I don't think anyone here has one, but several pictures have poped up over the years. Good luck on your project.
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May 13, 2014
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Thanks, and yeah it isn't going to be cheap- the carbine kit for my Beretta cost as much as the pistol... but then again I am sure people on here have paid almost as much for some barrels as they did for their 15-2. Hey it's better than spending it on crack or other illegal things! Sometimes having something unique is worth more to someone even if it may not be practical cost wise.
Incase anyone else is interested, here is the ATF ruling I mentioned-
http://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf
In a nutshell it states that you can go from pistol to rifle and back to pistol if the firearm started out as a pistol. You definitely cannot go from rifle to pistol without an SBR stamp. I keep a printed copy in my Beretta case just incase I run into an over jealous LEO or ATF agent.
If there isn't a company out there that already makes a 16" barrel and shroud, I know a smith that can do it. He made my PPSH-43 carbine barrels for me, one in 7.62x25 and one in 9mm. I'm sure he can make a .357 with the right threads on each end. The rear stock is actually going to be harder to make than the barrel. LB do you have any pictures of one of the stocks you can build and what kind of price are we talking (PM me if you don't want to or can't say that here). I especially like the look of this one- this stock and the barrel from the one I previously posted would look incredible!
May 13, 2014
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LB... are you the same LB I see over to the right of this site? If so many many apologies about asking to see your work! I am very impressed and have to get some new grips for my 15-2 when I finally get it. Right now it has rubber grips and I like the look of nice wood grips better
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November 17, 2008
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Yep same LB but no worries. Truthfully I have yet to build a DW shoulder stock and would have to do some studying before trying to price one. Just for reference I did this for my son several years back.
If you get to the point of seriously building your project I will help all I can. Don't forget when you source your barrel and or shroud it will need a means for attaching the forend.
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May 13, 2014
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I'm dead serious about building this, so if you have some time and can take a look see at what you need to do and then quote me a price we can go from there. I definitely need a barrel before the stock is sent to me. As I mentioned I know a smith that does custom barrels so I'll give him a call if I can't find any other sources. The only problem is he takes quite awhile, as in several months. At least that means no rush on from you
I know you said others have inquired but never got contacted you after that. Let me say this, I have several custom guns and this is something I really want in my collection. Well as long as the stock doesn't cost a grand! I wish I already had a barrel because what I really would like would be for a rig where the barrel stores inside the rear stock- but I also know that makes the whole project a whole lot more complex. That and the wood foregrip would still have to be stored... Don't mind me, just thinking out loud 
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March 27, 2009
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Just a thought on this, a 15"hv with an comp or other attachment as, if over an inch you have your 16" or am I way off on this?
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March 25, 2013
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Sounds like an AR M-4 carbine. Boy, that would sure make it simplier. What can you do about the cylinder gap blast?
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November 17, 2008
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Well as long as the stock doesn't cost a grand!
Of course not, $999.99 and not a penny more! 
PM sent.
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February 22, 2009
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Dave, you can do that as long as the brake is permanent and not removable.
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May 13, 2014
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rwsem said
Dave, you can do that as long as the brake is permanent and not removable.
Yeah that is the issue, it has to be permanently attached. This gave me an idea though, at least something to check on and verify with the BATF- if they approve of it and say it is ok, then we could be good to go and just need the stock. I need to go over to NFATalk and then the BATF and find out a few things...
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