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October 11, 2009
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My brother picked up a sweet model 15 porkchop a couple years ago and never shot it. The guy he bought it fro. Said that it was missing the cylinder lock. I finally convinced my brother to get the part and get it out ahooting. So we just got it torn down to put the cylinder lock in and there doesn't seem to be a place for it. The only diagram I can find is for a 15-2. Can anyone help me out with this?
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December 4, 2011
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If you mean the cylinder latch, there certainly is one of those on a 15 porkchop. It's a bit bigger than the ones on the later 15-2 but there is a place for it to attach on the crane. I don't have a diagram of a porker handy but a google search will probably find one. If you don't have the part, perhaps someone here has a spare.
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December 19, 2014
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The only difference between a 15 (porkchop) and 15-2 (non-porkchop) wrt the cylinder latch is the size as Scorpio mentioned. It's in the same place on the crane (number 24 in the diagram). The crane (and cylinder) on non-porkchops is held in the frame by the crane lock (part 42). Porkchops don't have that because the flange on the porkchop barrel keeps the crane in place in the frame.
December 19, 2014
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Wait a minute. Is this what you're asking about? I think it's basically the same on all models (or at least in the same relative location). I think it's part 37 in the schematic ("Bolt").
February 29, 2012
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glockanator said
My brother picked up a sweet model 15 porkchop a couple years ago and never shot it. The guy he bought it from. Said that it was missing the cylinder lock. I finally convinced my brother to get the part and get it out shooting. So we just got it torn down to put the cylinder lock in and there doesn't seem to be a place for it. The only diagram I can find is for a 15-2. Can anyone help me out with this?
There's a few different parts here, and members aren't sure just which piece you need.
The Cylinder Bolt, also called the stop, bolt, or lock. (#37 "bolt" in parts diagram)
The Cylinder Latch, which opens and closes the cylinder. (#24 "latch" in parts diagram)
And early Dan Wesson revolvers have a cylinder catch bump-stop pressed into the side plate. This bump in the side plate, keeps the cylinder from falling off while it's open.
Later Dan Wesson revolvers have this bump/stop cast into the side plate.
CZ-USA/Dan Wesson still stocks this removable piece as a replacement part.
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February 16, 2016
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Excellent clarification Bullwolf.
February 29, 2012
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Stinger said
Excellent clarification Bullwolf.
Thanks Stinger.
Here's a better picture of the bump in the side plate, zoomed in somewhat more.
I used a model 715 in this example, so the piece is cast into the side plate in the pic. I've seen a few earlier model 15-2's where the stop is a pressed in part that has fallen out, and gotten lost.
I don't know the correct name for this part, so I'm calling it a bump or a stop.
If someone knows what Dan Wesson calls this part, please feel free to chime in here.
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March 2, 2008
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Actually, the "Cylinder Stop" is not and never has been a named part on the Dan Wesson revolver. Early models, including early 15-2's, had a cylinder stop that was integral in the side plate, not a separate part, and it was not a press fit part. It was a fairly fragile design, and eventually DW reconfigured the side plate to have a well supported cylinder stop, again an integral part of the sideplate. As you look at pictures of 15-2's over time, you can begin to see a different cylinder stop design that is less sharp edged, better supported, less likely to break away from the side plate. This is very clear on 715's, like the photo provided.
DW did and, and may still have, a service part named "cylinder stop" that can be press fit and adhered to the sideplate to replace broken sideplates that have lost the cylinder stop function. I got pretty tired of losing the cylinder stop on my first 15-2 and eventually bought six of the replacement cylinder stops. Much easier to install a new one than search in the mud and crud on range to find a lost cylinder stop.
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February 29, 2012
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Thanks very much for the clarification Steve.
I'd seen this before on the Dan Wesson forum.
https://www.danwessonforum.com/forum/reloading/cylinder-stop-replacement/
And read that DW has a replacement part for the problem, but didn't know what the part was called.
I was not aware that it wasn't a removable part, and was just a broken off piece of the side plate.
My confusion may have been because the replacement part is pressed in and then glued back into place. I was just trying to help the original poster, who still hasn't responded back yet.
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Bullwolf said
There's a few different parts here, and members aren't sure just which piece you need.
The Cylinder Bolt, also called the stop, bolt, or lock. (#37 "bolt" in parts diagram)
The Cylinder Latch, which opens and closes the cylinder. (#24 "latch" in parts diagram)
And early Dan Wesson revolvers have a cylinder catch bump-stop pressed into the side plate. This bump in the side plate, keeps the cylinder from falling off while it's open.
Later Dan Wesson revolvers have this bump/stop cast into the side plate.
CZ-USA/Dan Wesson still stocks this removable piece as a replacement part.
- Bullwolf
I am talking about part 42. It looks like if you were to cut one coil off a spring and then cut that in half again. I will pull the side off his 15 and take pictures side by side to my 15-2.
February 16, 2016
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That is the Crane Lock then .. I believe 'snake-eye' has some of those if you check with him.
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glockanator said
I am talking about part 42. It looks like if you were to cut one coil off a spring and then cut that in half again. I will pull the side off his 15 and take pictures side by side to my 15-2.
Well, you're in luck; Eric has what you need here. Regards, Ron
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October 11, 2009
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I already have one I got from Eric. The problem is I can't find a good diagram to show where it goes on the model 15.
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February 1, 2016
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glockanator said
I already have one I got from Eric. The problem is I can't find a good diagram to show where it goes on the model 15.
Try this, not the best pic, but I think it's the same as a 15
https://www.danwessonforum.com/forum/reloading/tuning-up-your-15-2-the-average-joe-method/
scroll down and it's shown before removal and with the crane and clip out
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December 19, 2014
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Porkchop models don't have crane locks, the flange part of the porkchop barrel retains the crane in the frame. When the porkchop barrels went away then there became the need to retain the crane in the frame using the crane lock. You can't find a place for one because there isn't a place for one because you don't need one.
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middlecalf said
Porkchop models don't have crane locks, the flange part of the porkchop barrel retains the crane in the frame. When the porkchop barrels went away then there became the need to retain the crane in the frame using the crane lock. You can't find a place for one because there isn't a place for one because you don't need one.
Oh yeah, I knew that 
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