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Monson 44 Magnum - Pics and Gunsmithing Question
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TheTinMan
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I just bought my first Dan Wesson - a 744-V6 if I understand the model designations right.  Stainless, .44 Magnum, vented rib shroud around 6" barrel.  Serial number is 44S0017xx.  Here are some pics.

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What is the purpose of these ports in the barrel shroud?  At first I thought the barrel was ported but there's no sign of any powder residue etc. and no ports in the barrel itself.

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Can someone explain to me why the threaded insert which obviously holds the hammer spring in place (mainspring seat) has been peened in place?  Is this normal or am I looking at the handiwork of a kitchen table gunsmith?

 

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Somebody sure didn't want that thing unscrewed!  EVER!!!

 

Also, is the grip the only thing that keeps the hammer pin from drifting out?

 

So much to learn, so little time...

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Some of the 44 barrels were ported, the reason for the ported shroud.

The peened insert is normal, yours looks alittle more peened than most but a normal thing.

Not sure about your question on the hammer pin ? ?

 

Here is a parts diagram, are you talking about #10 mainspring guide ?

http://stevespages.com/ipb-dwesson-w44.html

 

 

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Let me try. The ports, most DW's came with two barrel tubes one ported one not, most all shrouds are ported. You are better off with the non ported as the ported usually just makes a mess and causes stuck barrel nuts unless you are really on the ball about keeping it clean.

The grip screw insert is not intended to be moved. Some are peened some welded. No worries everything comes out from the top.

And yep the grip holds it in (hammer pin) but it is fairly snug usually and I have never heard of one falling out.

 EDIT BT beat me to the punch.

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#14 the Hammer Pivot Pin is what I was asking about.  When I removed the grip and dry fired the revolver, that pin just started walking out.  It is loose enough to pry out with a fingernail.

 

I'm very glad to hear that the "mainspring seat" #49 is supposed to be peened or welded in place.  Gave me a fright when I first saw it.  Thanks for the reassurance!

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Ummm...yes, the grip does hold in the #14 hammer pin.

In an effort to make the gun with as few unnecessary parts, the grip does play a vital role in this case. I doubt the engineers at DW would have thought that someone would repeatedly cycle the action without a grip...as in one trigger pull with a live round & that gun will be laying on the ground behind you.wink

Don't dry-fire the poor thing & put it's clothes back on.laugh

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BTW, as an example of DW's idea of unnecessary (I.E. over engineered) parts, here's a Smiff 18-3 for example...

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There's probably a dozen extra parts in that photo than in your average DW.

DW's were designed to function well, and to be more user/owner friendly than the bucket full of stuff pictured above...in other words, an average DW owner wouldn't need to take his gun to a gunsmith for a deep cleaning, like you would a Smiff or Colt, or...

 

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TinMan,

 

I'll tell ya right now, those things are just money pits, time you figure in a few grips,

a barrel/shroud or two and not to mention ammo, don't even get me started on ammo.

Now I'm willing to give ya half what you paid for it but you can thank me in six months

when figure all the money you have saved. Reluctantly waiting for your PM........

 

 

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Well it works just fine. Nicely accurate except that it is shooting high even with the rear sight lowered all the way.   A taller front sight may be needed. 

Even with this nice, heavy gun .44 Magnum could give me a flinch if I don't watch out. Fortunately, I had made up some soft target loads using TrailBosS. 

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TheTinMan said

Even with this nice, heavy gun .44 Magnum could give me a flinch if I don't watch out.

That's probably pretty common, I bet. I usually always end up flinching after 50 or so rounds of .44's & .445's...after 150 rounds, I'm just a mess. But it's still fun!laugh

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