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August 12, 2012
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I posted info on my two DW revolvers but wanted to reach out specifically regarding trigger pull. I have a 744 and 715 with very different trigger pull weights. They are as follows:
744 ave pull 6#3oz
715 ave pull 3#4oz
and just for reference, my S&W 29-3 silhouette (10 5/8) is 4#6oz
I asked my gunsmith and he said it is common for a more powerful revolver to have a greater trigger pull. However, he did not know if the figures above are "out of the box" weights or if any work might have been done.
Does anyone have a known stock gun of the same or similar model(s) and an accurate trigger pull gauge to give me some feedback? I really like the lighter pull of the 357 and would like to modify my 44 but not at the risk of making it any less reliable as it is my backup gun for hunting...the life and death thing...
If for some reason you want to see the guns I posted photos on the revolver forum titled "kid brother".
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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I'll try to check a couple of .357's in the next day or two. Your 715 maybe sounds a little light, but it's been so long since I measured a trigger pull, I don't have any ready numbers.
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June 29, 2012
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My 744 has the lighter trigger pull of all my revolvers in DA, a little scary I would say.
One of my 15-2 was a CCW gun and has had a thorough trigger job with a feather light trigger pull in DA. Down side, it is not reliable anymore, the hammer spring needs to be changed for a stronger and newer one as it's FTF once in a while.
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August 12, 2012
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According to Keith Lawton at DW the revolver trigger mechanisms were all done by hand and had an approximate trigger pull of 4-5#. I asked if that was true for the 44 and the 357 and he said they were both the same.
Hmmm...interesting. I'm believing more that my 715 has a trigger job. But what about the 6# 3oz pull on my 744? Seems high based on what Keith said. That would be the highest single action trigger pull of all my guns by over a pound. I may have to perform the "Average Joe" procedure posted on this forum or take it to my gunsmith.
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The general concept and principles in AJT will apply to your .44, but it is a different gun than the Small Frame. This might help:
https://www.danwessonforum.com/forum/reloading/large-frame-disassembly-tutorial-pics/
Don't overlook the possibility that your .44 has just never had a good internal cleaning, it only takes one little bit of dried crud in there to put things out of whack.
DW's can have a tendency to be Safe Queens, and spend a lot of years sitting unused with oil, lead, and powder residue achieving the consistency of epoxy.
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makes good sense. I think a tear down and thorough cleaning is in order. It has hardly been shot so maybe it's never been cleaned internally. While I'm in there I think I'll perform the stone polish described in the "Average Joe" tune up thread.
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Keep us posted on the out come!
August 12, 2012
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took her down today, gave it a quasi "Average Joe" tune up by polishing the mating surfaces of the sear and hammer. It wasn't gummy and only slightly dirty. On a 1-10 scale if 1 is perfect and 10 is filthy it was about a 3. All cleaned up inside and lubed pivot points. After 5 dry fires with my Lyman electronic trigger pull gauge I got 5# 12oz. Still not down to about 4# where I want it but a trip to the range will tell if further tuning is required.
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Keith would be giving you info on todays Norwich CZ/DW lighter hammer spring.
The hammer spring of the Monson era was one pound heavier. I believe it was
a 10lb and now they use a 9lb in their kits.
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June 29, 2012
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On the 44, there is an other track to try after the average Joe, observe the cylinder lock and and see if it 's dragging on the cylinder when you pull the trigger if that's the case, it is possible that it is locking too well in the cylinder slot.
That happened on one of mine and it was fixed by a friend that slightly filed the cylinder lock at an angle allowing the lock to disengage more easily, less dragging on the cylinder and less effort on the trigger.
Don't ask for pics, I don't have this one anymore and not being a gunsmith, I wouldn't know how much to remove and where but it worked for me and I thought it could be something to check.
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Blacktop said
Keith would be giving you info on todays Norwich CZ/DW lighter hammer spring.The hammer spring of the Monson era was one pound heavier. I believe it was
a 10lb and now they use a 9lb in their kits.
-Blacktop
Is it common, advisable, safe, to replace the stock spring with a 9#er? If so, best place to procure?
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Why not ? Lots of people have replaced their springs with the CZ/DW kits.
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Cool. I might just do that. Took the 744 and the 715 to the gun club today. Had to adjust the rear sight of the 744 after removing it to perform my quasi "Average Joe" tune up. The gun fired more smoothly and the double action is like butter! Can't wait to do the same for the 715. This was the first time shooting the 715 and with the 3+ pound trigger pull it was very accurate and easy to shoot a tight group. Then I ran six rounds through the 744 all in double action and quickly. You know...anti bear technique. I pitty the black bear who tries to get past ole Dan. The holster I ordered for the 715 should be here this week. This is from the Diamond D Custom Leather outfit in Alaska. I already have one for my 744. They work great and made to last.
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My bad, I ment to say mainspring. I think you knew that but...
I also have a bad habit of calling a 15-2 a 15 also 
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-Blacktop
September 29, 2012
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There are before and after triggers on all guns,DW,SW, Colt,Ruger etc., before lawyer triggers and after the manufactures all got spooked by lawsuits by our "esteemed" legal profession. The older guns were much lighter and smoother.
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