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lemeatm
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Sorry if this is in the wrong place, please direct me. 

I have a .357 max that I enherited from my dad.  The note in the log says that it shaved lead and was sent to a 'smith who enlarged the forcing cone too much which causes the bullet to jam in the forcing cone.  Asside from buying a new barrel is there anything that can be done?  I am not attached to this gun and would like to be able to sell it/trade it, but with the forcing cone issues it is just a large pretty paperweight.

 

Thanks for the help.

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welcome!

 

i will give ya $200 for it as is!!

 

or you can look on gunbroker, or ebay and maybe find a barrel. CZ/ Dan Wesson sells new barrels probably but if you are just looking to sell it, it may not be worth the money it would take to get it right just to turn around and sell it… but hey, i am new here. i have seen the 357 max's go for around 500 and up in good shape…

 

but on a serious note, i may be interested in buying as is. just shoot me a pic and a price in an email. offroader1994 at yahoo dot com.

Joe S.
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Welcome lemeatm,

 

There are a lot of friendly knowledgable folks here (more so than me). Barrel replacement on your gun is a simple DIY service and not a big deal. You should be able to acquire a new barrel for not "too much" money. Though it may be more than you want to invest given your desire to sell the gun.

Having the log journal is great. Sounds like your father was meticulous. However, I do not think that "enlarging a forcing cone" is ever the correct procedure to fix anything. So am am wary that a gun smith did such, especially to the barrel. Be that as it may, I would suspect there are other issues to this gun other than just the barrel. The point being then that replacing the barrel might "fix" the forcing cone issue, but I bet you would find it just starts "shaving lead" again.

I am not a gun smith, and all of this is just conjecture on my part. While the price may be dissappointing in its current condition, I would suggest you go "all the way to having the gun repaired" or you simply list it for sale and accept that price. I would not try to cobble a repair based upon that journal entry.

 

The .357Max is a wonderful gun, and prized by Dan Wesson lovers. Good luck to you.

 

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I would agree with Pine that there may be more going on than the barrel. If the cylinder timing is off it would shave lead. Is the cylinder tight when the hammer is back and the trigger pulled (holding the hammer of course). If there is play in the cylinder then the timing may be an issue also.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. Is this a blue or stainless Model 40, .357 Max.? Made in Palmer or Monson?

AND, Welcome to the DWF Sign.  If you are so inclined give us some Cool Pics so we can see it for ourselves!

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Good morning and I will add my Welcome.    Welcome

#1  You mentioned you were "Attached" to that Dan... Do not sell it !  20 years from now you will regret the sale. 

#2 As much as I like buying these revolvers and shooting them yours is salvagable.

 

I would give CZ a call and find out what needs to be done to send them your revolver for maintanence.  They are capable of good repairs.  They have barrels for sale.  They can fix timing. 

 

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I'm no gunsmith, but the 'enlarging the forcing cone' approach just seems wrong in this scenario. As these guys have said, shaving lead normally is caused by the cylinder timing being off just a little. That's an easily fixable job, in the right hands.

If your goal is merely to sell the gun though, you'll have to weigh the cost of repairs against letting it go cheap as is. Sorta like selling a used car, I guess.Wink  You could call DW for an approximate cost of repairs, then decide from there. DW's contact info is at the right of this screen, under FAQ's; where can I order parts?

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Just add $100 to the price of their quote. That's how much they were off on quoting me a new cylinder. Lol

Missionary, think he said he was NOT attached to the gun

Joe S.
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Thanks all for your help.  I am still undecided what I am going to do with this, I am waiting on DW/CZ rep to get back to me. 

I am tempted to take it to the range today and put some cast bullets through it to see how it runs to confirm the notes I have on it.  Results to follow.

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Close up the gun and then try to push out the cylinder without using the latch.

If cylinder will unlock and open with a push this is where your shaved lead problem

is. You will need to file/fit latch. This happened to me and is an easy fix. But you may

have other things going on.

 

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WelcomeWe all hope you keep with the faith and have the gun fixed to be used and enjoyed. The 357SM is nothing less than the sweetest shooting revolver ever made bar none, how many hand guns can be accuriate out over 200 yardsGoodLuckoccasion! Given the fact that the barrel may have been damaged by improper maching there are options to replace the barrel from Dan Wesson, ebay or the Gun Broker auction sight. Now would be the time to have an expert check out the gun to verify there is a problem. Check the barrel gap and adjust accordingly some revolvers or I should say most will spit lead or powder and gases to the side when firing have a friend help when shooting use leather for protection and also try to check barrel cylinder alignment on all six chambers to make sure one and all ports are good. Most gunsmiths can check this with caliber specific pilots. Hope we've helped! If you decide to sell this is the place to post that option!

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If you decide to start with a new barrel, which most of us think would be the correct starting point due to the fact that the original has been not too wisely altered, let me know.  I have a beautiful laser-colored blue barrel for that gun.  If you are interested, let me know via PM.

-Mike

 

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Took it ot the range the other day after cleaning, tightening and tweaking and had zero issues.  I only had 5 rounds of .357 Max lead swc, and 15 .357 lead swc.  No issues at all except the RO thought I was going to blow up the range.  There is some play with the cylindar, but nothing more than my .357 mag and there are no issues with that.  It is possible that my dad had this fixed and didn't log it. 

Dan Wesson did let me know that they would do a thorough ultrasonic cleaning and adjust the timing for ~$100. 

 

I have been doing some soul searching and think I am going to put it up for sale for $400.  This is a great price for a great gun, and if it needs some work it still is a great price.

 

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