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Opinions on a wiggly cylinder
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April 23, 2009 - 5:58 pm
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Hi, folks.

 

The VH8 I bought on gunbroker awhile back has arrived, and I did the tests described at the top of this revolver forum.

 

My cylinder is slightly wiggly. Also, the cylinder latch is not perfectly wiggle-free. It does not display the “welded to the frame” feel described in the article as ideal.

 

I’m thinking of taking it to a gunsmith to see what he might do with it.

 

I’m open to any and all opinions, suggestions, comments.

 

Thanks.

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After many years of heavy use, I sent my DW model 40 to Dan Wesson/CZ for the same problem, it is currently still there, apparently there's a 6 week back up.  I checked around and few quality gunsmiths work on DW's, but DW/CZ still works on all DW's and having all the parts there makes it a quicker solution than other smiths, who will have to order the parts or manufacture the parts.

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April 23, 2009 - 6:38 pm
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I agree with Robhof, send it to CZ as they will know what to do to make it right.  The down side is the wait, I have a gun there too.  That just means DWAS must kick in and you must obtain another one in the mean time to shoot until the VH8 arrives backLaugh

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April 23, 2009 - 7:08 pm
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I dunno...I'd go run a few boxes of rounds through it first, then send it to DW. That way, you know if it's another DW of the same caliber to look for while it's being tuned up, or a DW in a larger caliber!Laugh

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April 23, 2009 - 7:13 pm
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Charger Fan said:

I dunno…I'd go run a few boxes of rounds through it first, then send it to DW. That way, you know if it's another DW of the same caliber to look for while it's being tuned up, or a DW in a larger caliber!Laugh


What's wrong with you? Who needs a good reason like that to buy another one

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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April 23, 2009 - 8:32 pm
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Steve CT said:

Charger Fan said:

I dunno…I'd go run a few boxes of rounds through it first, then send it to DW. That way, you know if it's another DW of the same caliber to look for while it's being tuned up, or a DW in a larger caliber!Laugh


What's wrong with you? Who needs a good reason like that to buy another one


I was just thinkin' that as a beginner, he may be a little leery of that DWAS feeling, so I thought I'd grease that slippery slope a bit. Then before he could turn back to safety, he'd be sucked into full blown DWAS!

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I have 3 DW revolvers and every one locks up tight, there is no play. You can still move the cylinder a tiny bit. It's not like it's welded on any of them. Compared to other brands I've tried our DW revolvers lock up tighter. 

Something to keep in mind is that the fact that the cylinder is allowed to move a tiny bit allows the bullet to help align the cylinder to the barrel. If the cylinder could not move everything must be absolutely perfect or you'll be torqueing the cylinder every time a bullet hits the forcing cone. Even if it's a few thousands the cylinder will eventually become loose. At least I think this makes sense.

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I was a little confused on this too. All of my DW's have a very slight amount of "rotational" movement, so little that you can't even see it, just feel it if you rotate the cylinder at lockup. I've never thought this was a problem, is it?

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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April 24, 2009 - 8:28 pm
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A little play is acceptable, but when it becomes obvious as in 1/8" in either direction or more as mine was before sending in.  Too much play will prematurely wear the forcing cone and can cause lead spitting from impacting the cone from to far off center.  If it's not spitting and shoots consistantly tight groups, then there's probably no problem.

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April 24, 2009 - 9:15 pm
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Thanks for clarifying, I was pretty sure there was no real problem with mine

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Well, this gives me some stuff to think about.

My cylinder moves less than 1/8 inches, so maybe it's nothing to worry about.

I think what I'll do is go to a gun store and examine several brand new revolvers for comparison. That might give me an idea of where mine stands.

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April 26, 2009 - 6:49 pm
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with it unloaded pull the trigger back just enough to move the latch out of the notch then rotate the cylinder slowly to the next notch . The latch should lock it up every time without exception .

Look at the latch as you wiggle the cylinder and see if it is moving .

With the hammer all the way back the hand will bear against the cylinder and the latch will also be fully engaged those two components work against one another a small amount to ensure that the cylinder is locked in battery , the cylinder should be very tight when the hammer is all the way back .

A new latch and hand should fix it up in any case . the hand is a machined piece in my monson the latch is cast . In any case these components wear because of the safety issue (the hand applying pressure to the latch to POSITIVELY locate the cylinder at the point of ignition)

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