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December 4, 2011
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I was inspecting a barrel assembly for my 44 that I recently acquired and I see something I think may be a problem. Its ablued 8" HV shroud with NO slots for a power control barrel, but inside it is a stainless power control barrel. I'm going to guess that you can't safely shoot a power control barrel in an un slotted shroud. Am I correct? If so, I will need a 8" standard barrel, or an 8" blued shroud (preferably a standard under lug type) with slots for the power control barrel.
Sorry I just checked and the barrel is blued not stainless, but it does have the power control holes and the blued VH shroud has no slots. The shroud also has no markings either rolled or laser etched, nothing. Did anybody ever make aftermarket barrel shrouds for the 44 and not mark them?
I don't see any barrel tubes on EWKs site, does he or did he ever make barrel tubes? I was thinking that would be an easy fix if I need a different barrel tube.
I'd like to get a standard Vented shroud with slots if I could find one.
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That sounds a little unusual. I would not say it's unsafe to shoot, the way the venting works on the DW ported BA's is that the pressure vents from the holes in the barrel into the shroud, and ultimately some pressure releases out the shroud slots. My unscientific guess is that the net effect of this style of venting is marginal, especially compared to something like the MagnaPort system. I will say that the barrel shroud will fill up with crud and crap even faster without the shroud vents. My guess it is that an unmarked (roll or laser), unslotted shroud might very well be a one off, possibly homemade one.
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1) Eric may have .44 barrels available now, or soon
2) DW/CZ may have unported barrels
3) Maybe you can negotiate with Eric to cut slots in your shroud, but about 2x larger than the original ones to really allow some substantial venting to occur.
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Not sure I would shoot this one, as it will vent into the shroud. May be a problem in removal. I have a few unmarked shrouds that were never roll marked from factory (they may have been snuck out). Easiest maybe to fill the holes or as said have Eric cut some ports in shroud! Or cut the shroud and barrel down and re thread! They do pop up on GB barrels and shrouds so maybe worth finding the ported shroud with or with out barrel! Good luck on this one but be careful if you shoot it!
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I don't plan to shoot this for the reasons mentioned, I'm looking to either get a non ported barrel or a ported shroud or both. I have ported shrouds for the 4" and the 6" and 10" barrels but the shroud for the 8" is not ported but the barrel is. If I can't find anything in a reasonable time frame, I may get Eric to port the shroud.
I was thinking that the non marked shroud could have been either a factory oversite, or somebody on the production line "helped themselves" to a shroud.
If anybody hears of any barrel/shroud fitting my needs, give me a heads up,
Thanks.
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At least you can shoot the 44 if you want with the extras and you aren't having to take a chance! Something may show up to fit your needs.
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Just for home front KY a bit ago. I'll look tomorrow to see what barrels I have laying around.
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SCORPIO said:
I was thinking that the non marked shroud could have been either a factory oversite, or somebody on the production line "helped themselves" to a shroud.
It sounds like your 8" may be a Palmer shroud & the rest are Monsons? The roll mark on a Palmer shroud will show only the caliber, Monson shrouds have "Dan Wesson Arms" along with the caliber.
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The last article I read on the power port was that it reduced muzzle jump about 18%. I think that's right. You might want Eric to to cut some ports in it. Some guys don't like the ported barrels even with a power port shrouds. I guess you have to clean the barrel/shroud more with them. I have the DW 44 mag with two 8 & 6 in barrels that are ported and non-ported. Both shrouds are power ported. Barrels are not that expensive. GB and GA have them. Eric does too. Some people with trade you a non-ported barrel for a ported barrel. Good luck!
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While on the subject of Power Ported Barrels, I would think that a Fiber Optic sight close to the ports would foul quickly. Anyone had any experience with this combination? R S
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No luck- the only .44 Barrel I have is ported....
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The 8" shroud had NO MARKINGS at all, not even caliber. It looks like a factory shroud, same style as the 8" on my 357 (which is laser etched). Could somebody have polished off the laser etch and blued over it? Anyway, thanks for looking for me, I appreciate it. I sent Eric an email to see if he makes any 44 tubes or could cut the shroud, haven't heard back yet, maybe after the holidays.
Thanks again guys!
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SCORPIO said:
The 8" shroud had NO MARKINGS at all, not even caliber. It looks like a factory shroud, same style as the 8" on my 357 (which is laser etched). Could somebody have polished off the laser etch and blued over it?
That's possible, maybe even probable. And could (easily) explain why it's not ported to match the barrel. An earlier barrel with a later shroud...I could easily see this happen.
This is one of those instances where I wish the shrouds & barrels would have been marked with the corresponding serial numbers from the factory. And all other later special orders should have been marked with at least a "SP" or SO" somewhere in there.
I guess it's a good thing I didn't work at DW back then, or I may have been a manufacturer's logistical nightmare...
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