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February 28, 2009
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A couple of nights ago we got out to the range. We took our 4 new Dans and our Lil' Dan because our daughter wanted to come along and try it out.
New 740: Geez I love this gun. puts everything in the black in spite of the incompetent (me) behind the trigger. My wife likes it, my daughter; not so much.
New 722M: I haven't received my .22 barrel tool yet so the .22's are as I received them. Headspace will change when the tool gets here and they both will come completely apart for a proper cleaning. However, it shoots extremely well. Both the girls liked it.
New 722: Shoots really well. Both the girls liked it a lot, but my wife says she still prefers the 744. (And she's the one who said “get me a .22″.) My daughter says she still prefers the 715. There is a peculiar thing about this gun: extraction requires placing the extractor rod end on the bench and pressing the gun down. The empties just won't come out any other way. I'm hoping that it's just because the gun has not been properly cleaned. Nothing is bent and the cartridges go in easily. Also, they come out easily unless they have been fired. Any comments are welcome.
New 741: This is a lovely gun. Groups very well. However, I think someone did a very poor trigger job on it. I'll describe what happens and then someone can tell me what to do. The SA pull is a light breeze. Don't exhale on the trigger. Way too light for safety as far as I'm concerned because the rest of the family will be using this gun on occasion as well. Now here's the peculiar part; if I am holding the gun, ever so slightly tilted to the right, pressing on the trigger causes trigger kick-back after firing. This seems very dangerous to me. My question is; does anyone think that a new spring set will more than likely be all that's needed to get this gun safe again? Also, while mechanically inclined, I have never worked on a handgun before, does this seem like something I can reasonably expect to do myself?
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Next week I hope to have a chance to update my collection pic. I hope you will be patient until then. 
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March 2, 2008
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I think you are saying the 722 extracts with difficulty, however the same thoughts apply to any revolver. Of course, a through and agressive cleaning on the chambers is a good start. To troubleshoot:
Try firing just one round in each successive chamber (load one, shoot it, extract) to see if one, several, or all chambers are a problem. Use an erasable marker to keep track of cylinders
Carefully examine each extracted casing for scratches, bulges, etc.
Try different ammo, especially if this is a .22 lr. If it is .22 lr, also try standard velocity and high velocity, as well as some top of the line stuff like Ely Pistol Match. .22 lr is just about the most finicky ammo out there.
On the 741 (or any DW) a spring replacement is pretty straightforward, but if you think someone has been screwing around inside, get it to a good gunsmith, or DW/CZ to make things right (we REALLY need some good DW gunsmiths, I hope my local one works out well).
You have already covered the picture stuff, but I can't resist
Steve
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February 28, 2009
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Thanks, Steve. I had no idea that .22LR was so cantankerous. I tried 2 kinds of ammo, some ancient Winchester that I have had forever, and some new American Eagle. I'll definitely try the one chamber at a time routine to see if I can localize the problem. I will also try some of the other brands of ammo.
On the 741, I think I'll try the spring kit first. I'm not real happy with the local gunsmith. i had a shroud re-blued and I'm not pleased with the result. I PM'd Hotbluer to see if I was expecting too much but I got no response.
We used to have a gun shop in a nearby suburb (where I bought my first 2 Dan's in fact) that was super. All of the cops in the surrounding suburbs patronized the place. The gunsmith did a wonderful job on my Desert Eagle, installing Bomar sights and doing a slick trigger job.
Then some idiot named Lori Dan shot some kid in a nearby school. She had bought the gun at the super gun shop. He finally couldn't stand the heat from the press and closed down. A real loss to the surrounding communities.
Thanks again for your assistance and advice.
ps. thanks for the reminder about the lack of pics. 🙂
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January 24, 2009
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Sounds like you & the family had a fun day at the range, can't beat that!
I'm betting that once you get the .22 cleaned up, it'll behave better for ya. But definitely try Steve's idea first, just so you can keep tabs on any improvement after cleaning.
December 17, 2008
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Super report and excellent anticipation on the demand for pics!!
I'll be very interested to hear what you find with the 741 - that is pretty peculiar.
Excellent suggestions from Steve on diagnosing the .22.
May 18, 2009
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Zoom-your .22 problem may stem from someone shooting shorts (or even posibly longs) with it. When you clean it, let the solvent soak in the cylinders for 30 minutes or so and then hit them with a bronze brush. Will probably clear it up. Tough extraction usually happens with the .22wmr, I think it may be due to the slightly tapered case of that cartridge. I always clean the cylinder of my SW model 48 very thoroughly. Still waiting to get my DW .22 as the stupid post office has lost my payment to the seller.
Jim
DW 15, DW 22, SW 48, SW 1917, Ruger Lcp, Bernardelli Mod 80
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