November 16, 2010
I just missed a good deal on a DW44, so now I'm on the lookout for a large frame 41 or 44. I figured I'd get a full lug - just because I guess.
In a 41 or 44 with an 8" bbl, is a full lug really that much better for recoil? Where is the break point at which it's just extra weight to tote around?
Mike
February 11, 2010
When it comes to the .44,
Depends on the loads you want to shoot, mid to light with 180-240grain
bullets , a four or 6inch barrel would be just pleasent to shoot.
Want to shoot a 300 grain 1300+ fps with 1200 lbs of energy and
you'll appreciate every ounce of extra weight.
-Blacktop
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March 27, 2009
June 5, 2008
The 8" 744 with hot 300gr Noler JHP load of mine (1350 average) is like shooting a 6" S&W 686 with a light load, almost no recoil to the hand, just muzzle hop. With light loaded (850 to 900 fps) L/SWC it's about like shooting 22 revolver for recoil.
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Dans Club
March 2, 2008
Purely my own opinion, but going from 4" to 6", the extra weight is noticeable in controlling muzzle flip, over 6" probably less so. More important is almost certainly a good grip. I hated my son's 8V with Pachmayr Presentation grip, my 6VH was just as bad with wood grips, a tremendous improvement with the Hogue rubber fingergroove grips.
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George Carlin
June 5, 2008
My experience is 180 out from above regarding grips, I hate the poor designed Houge finger grove's but love the woods. Also like the 4" & 8" over the 6" barrel. I guess different strokes for different folks, I suffer from arthritis and find the grip angle and size of the Dan's the best if any revolver I ever owned or shot.
My 744 with range shooting grips.
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Blacktop said:
Wow ! 300 grainer at 1350 fps and no recoil, that's a keEper.
-Blacktop
Who said no recoil? I said about like the S&W 686 (I've had 3) a very over rated gun. I have a S&W629 3" for glove box gun, and no way in hell would I shoot one of my hot 300gr loads in the gun. If the gun held together, I know my hand would not.
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February 11, 2010
Waldo Pepper said:
The 8" 744 with hot 300gr Noler JHP load of mine (1350 average) is like shooting a 6" S&W 686 with a light load, almost no recoil to the hand, just muzzle hop. With light loaded (850 to 900 fps) L/SWC it's about like shooting 22 revolver for recoil.
Sorry WP, I should have said "almost no recoil"
-Blacktop
June 5, 2008
It has less recoil then my 1911 Colt DE's and why I don't shoot them as much. I think that DW grip angle is just about as important as the almost 7 lbs of steel.
My 629 3" Smith with 240 Corbon hurts my hand and is hard to control, but the DW VH4 with same ammo feels almost like the mild 850-900 fps 240gr L/SWC or L/RN does in the Smith.
The only reason I own the S&W is for glove box duty, and it would be easier to replace if stolen or turned over to PD if used. The DW 44 would be difficult and probably more expensive to replace, but mainly more difficult.
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February 11, 2010
I've only shot the .44 mag for 25 years, not near as many as WP, nor have I
developed any arthritis in my wrist ...as of yet, and not generally sensitive to
hard recoil.
I have probably shoot more 44 than any other round with well over
50,000+ through the years and that is a mild estimate. 98% of that has been
factory ammo with a few homemade loads from " you better check the barrel
and see if that bullet cleared " to " Damn..I don't want no more of that "
Having dozen's of 44's go through my hands over the years and only
having 4 different models as of today and only one being a Dan that I
have been shooting over a year now I totally Agree with the old timer,
for whatever reason , design, grip, angle or "they just plane got it right"
the Dan Wesson is the softest shooting 44 out there...bar none .
-Blacktop
June 5, 2008
All their revolvers are easy shooting, be it 22, 357 or 44, and like Blacktop not sure why. They just got it right, and that's all there is to it. All my other revolvers are gone except the 629 3" and that might be gone in near future if I need trading fodder. Well there is the two Ruger Bear Cats I have new and unfired in gun safe to use as training pistols for the two grandsons, before moving them up to automatic's and centerfire guns.
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dride711 said:
I have to ask if you would want a .44 mag, what recoil were you expecting? Thats like driving a 426 Hemi and wanting 25 miles to the gallon.
Say what???????
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September 10, 2010
Simply put IF you buy a .44 Magnum you know it will have big recoil (buy something smaller if you want less). In the same logic a big block V8 Hemi will have massive power but at a cost. It is relative with a dash of irony.
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My son, when twelve year old, shot factory loads weekly through his PV44H.
As I've said "The weight, contour, grip and shape of the DW make it VERY comfortable to shoot. The first day Gary fired 100 factory rounds, with no ill effects, other than euphoria! I was impressed. "
A range we went to rented firearms for the session. Nothing in the 44 class (1980s) came close to taming recoil like the DW.
"close isn't good enough"
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March 27, 2009
Dan just got it right! The 44 if wanting less run 44sp through it for range time, if you want to make your friends say damn toss a few factory 44mags down range. I still like my 744w/10" HV for no flip at all, wouldn't want to lug it around in the field all day, but at the range it is a sweet shooter reguardless of the loads. Same loads in Ruger black hawk about rip your hand off….
is the barrel ported on the 6 and 8"? These seem to tame the jump some what!
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