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Reloads won't fit model 15 cylinder
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October 11, 2010 - 9:51 pm
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I just finished shooting some reloads from my model 15. I have noticed that factory ammo slides right into the cylinders just fine, but when I reload the brass, I have to force them the last 1/16 of an inch into the cylinder. I am using once fired Winchester brass, and brand new Lee dies. The gun is clean, and has less than 50 rounds ever fired through it. Can anyone tell me WHY the reloads do not seem to fit the cylinder, and HOW I can fix this issue? thanks guys.

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Ensure the re-sizing die is turned down until it NEARLY makes contact w/ the shell holder at the top of the stroke.  Other than that, I dunno...

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I'm no expert, but it's possible that your brass needs to be trimmed to proper length. I think it's unlikely that once fired brass would have this problem, but in connection with Ron's suggestion, who knows?

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Depending on which style press you are using-- I set my dies to just "kiss" the shellholder when doing full length sizing.  My Rockchucker actually "cams over" with a little pressure on the die bottoms.

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May I ask what bullets you are loading?  The diameter of the bullets?  The other's suggestions of the sizing die setting would be the first place to look.  If that does not solve it make sure the bullets you have are sized correct and not oversized.  Sometimes the shape of a particular bullet or the depth you set it at can affect how a round will load in a revolver as well.  That comes from personal experience.

 

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As said above check both the case length and bullet diameter . A friend who I recently got started casting his own bullets had a similar problem because he tumble lubed his bullets twice. Never dreamed the thickness of the lube would make a difference in the cartridge overall diameter. It took some serious investigation to figure that out also. Try pushing a bullet alone through the cylinder to see if it binds.

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...also try seating an empty shell into the cylinder...might try this first.

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Hmmm,

 

see I was wondering about the bottom end.. I have been given reloads with a "bulging" bottom. Actually, sometimesUzi they were kinda neat as they would "click" into place. I think I have culled all those out over the years though.

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SHOOTIST357 said:

Depending on which style press you are using-- I set my dies to just "kiss" the shellholder when doing full length sizing.  My Rockchucker actually "cams over" with a little pressure on the die bottoms.

SHOOT


This is exactly how I am doing it. I also have a Rock Chucker.

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I'm going to do some investigating today. I am using my own cast boolits. I am sizing them to .3585 . This may be causing the sticking, but I can't shoot undersized lead, so I'm not sure what the solution would be.

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All you have to do is buy a Lee Factory Crimp Die for less than $20.00 problem solvedProud To Be An American

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The factory crimp die removes case bulges due to the bullet seating process, but AFAIK, it sizes the same depth as a regular die.

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Some of my reloads don't like to fit too well in my DW's, I've noticed. Being a newbie reloader, I've just assumed I screwed up something either in the expanding step, or in the crimp step.Embarassed  Pretty sure it's the crimp.

However, those same bullets will fit just fine in my Colts & the Ruger Security Six, so I just run 'em through those guns.lol2  That story about DW's cylinders being tighter than other brands, makes sense, I'm-a-thinkin'.Wink 

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I finally figured it out. Thank you for all the help guys! The issue was that I was using the OAL that was listed in the book. This OAL was not landing my crimp exactly in the crimp groove, and the brass was "rolling" at the crimp. I have changed the OAL and my bullets seem to be working much better! Thanks again for all of your help!

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