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bnitch
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June 14, 2009 - 1:52 pm
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I'm thinking about putting a scope or a red dot sight on a 4" - model 14. Partly because I can get a 4" solid full rib shroud at a good price and second to lessen the overall weight of gun with mount and whatever I put on it.

I guess my question is how much will I lose by not hunting up a 6 or 8" barrel with full rib and has anyone scoped a 4" before. I bought a  pictanny rail mount from CZ that needs the full rib to go over the frame part of the gun.

 

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As long as the mount doesn't interfere with anything I DON'T see a problem with using the 4" barrel.

Personally I would go with a 6 or 8" barrel just to get the most out of the .357 magnum cartridge.

What are task are you going to use this revolver for?

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June 14, 2009 - 3:22 pm
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Unless you're going to shoot at a distance; I'd consider a holosight, but get a good one as I've destroyed a few cheap ones, putting them on 45's and a 357max.  You get quicker target acquisition and they're lighter than a scope.

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I'm just getting old and lining up the sights and target is a task, no longrange stuff or hunting. How much do you really lose for every 2″ of barrel. The 4″ just is easier on me as far as holding out there and to add anything else may just take the fun out of it. that is a 6 or 8″ plus a scope or dot and mount.

I should have gotten a 15 instead of a 14, but it had never been shot so was as new, I just didn't concider the top rib part and mounting anything to it. Now I have a 14 with 2", 4" and 6" barrels. Maybe I should just trade for a 15.

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I GUESStimate that you gain about 100 fps for every extra 2 inches of barrel (i have nothing to back this up). The model 15 has easier to see target sights: then the milled low profile rear sight and the serrated front ramp you have on the model 14.

 bnitch I reccommend you do whatever is easiest on you and your pocketbook. And best of all have fun shooting Laugh.

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Check out this web site.  Remember they are measuring the barrel length including the chamber on an encore with no B/C gap.

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html

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The holo is probably the best way to go. If you don't already have one, you might want to consider popping for a nice .22 target pistol with a weaver rail on top. With ammo prices and availibility this is a nice way to get to  where you want to go. I have a 5.5 Target Buckmark that has an adjustable post front sight with removeable hoods over both front and rear. Currently it is sighted in with a BSR red dot. But this will change back to iron and then to a regular 2-6 bushnell. Then back to iron.

 You see, the thing is for scopes with me is, they are hard for me to hold target (especially the 2-6), while shooting off hand. They are great for benching tho.

The last post was interesting. It appears that in this test a 4" S&W 686 has more velocity than a 6" Python. This refers back to the rifling post a couple of days ago.

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I think a good holo is the way for me to go. I reload and have boxes of 38 and 357's made up and still a lot yet to make. Just ordered 4 box''s of  Gold Dot Short Barrel 135gr. still have a few 100 145gr Silver Tips to play with and and boxes of LSWC. so the 22 isnt going to save me any money.

I just have always preferred the 3- 4" barrels for general target shooting. Just kind of curious as to how far out you can get with a 4" and be accurate. Obviously they made these 15" silhouette barrels for a reason.

Besides we need more discusions on this board even if it is my stupid questions. So of the topics never get any questions, like reloading. Or start a topic just for the Maximum guns not many people know much about the ammo and why they were even made. Just a thought.

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Don't know about MOA accuracy, but there was an episode of Tales of the Gun on tv, where Bob Mundon shot a 44 with a 2" barrel and broke a balloon at 500 yds; of course he lobbed it in with a huge arch.  I've walked my 357max into a gong at 200yds with the 6" barrel and a spotter.   I regularly shoot sihlouette targets at 50 yds with my 9mm and a 4" barrel.

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There is no real reason a short barrel can't be just as accurate as a long barrel.  Sure you loose some velocity but velocity doesn't translate to accuracy.  The biggest drawback to a shorter barrel is reduced sight radius.  With the shorter sight radius any small error in sight alignment will produce larger groups than the same sight miss-alignment with a longer sight radius.  With a scope the sight radius disadvantage is eliminated and a short barrel can be just as accurate as a long one.

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June 16, 2009 - 3:58 pm
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Good answers thanks guys, anyone have a picture of a 4" with optic's on it?

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