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September 10, 2010
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Does anyone else think its sad some sellers are splitting pacs up and selling everything separately. I think that pure greed is destroying some fine Dan Wesson collectibles along with the uniqueness that Dans have. Who would buy just a frame with no barrel? Not a fan of this.
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January 8, 2011
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I think anyone who splits up a pac does it for the money. Why else? I do hate to see someone split up a pac. But......... I bought a frame only on GB. Why? I had an extra BA doing nothing. I paid $250 for a frame and now I have another DW. I personally don't think I would have the heart to split up a pac. I'm not in need of money that bad.
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March 27, 2009
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many do it not sure it will ever stop!
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December 4, 2011
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On the flip side, pack breaking makes it possible for those of us who need a particular BA to be able to buy just that BA. Also, as is currently the case with a members gun, he couldn't get bids on a full pack so he is seperating it and selling the components and will in all likelyhood get far more money for the parts than as a pack.
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September 10, 2010
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I guess I'm a man of principal. I understand it benefits some people in different situations. Still a shame to do it. It would be like taking a perfectly fine collectible car to a chop shop because it would bring more money in pieces than whole. BUT now that car is gone forever.
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May 2, 2009
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I sell a lot of parts, and I've busted up a few "Pacs"...but the ones I busted up were not original ones--mixed shrouds in case, wrong frames, etc...
I sold a few 100% original pistol pacs in Mint condition this year--they remained intact... And for the most part, I got as much if not more than if they would have been parted out. I just couldn't break up an original DW Pac. I'm still sitting on an original DW22 Pac--it will never get parted out...it will go to a collector.
I for one also buy a lot of DW parts...none of them come from the "Pacbreaker club" (you know who you are)... but I do buy BA's, Leftover Pac parts, etc...Need them to build my own creations.
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March 2, 2008
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dride711 said:
I guess I'm a man of principal. I understand it benefits some people in different situations. Still a shame to do it. It would be like taking a perfectly fine collectible car to a chop shop because it would bring more money in pieces than whole. BUT now that car is gone forever.
I used to really get frustrated with Pack Breakers, but it doesn't bother me much anymore. If parting out a car (or a Pistol Pack) allows many others to complete their project, I think that is not so bad. If someone broke up a one of a kind, I'd be a little bothered by that.
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August 28, 2009
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Agree with Steve and Scorpio - it provides a supply of parts for those who need them. If there wasn't a market for it it wouldn't happen, but as long as there is a market for parts you'll continue to see packs broken up. Chances are that most of those busted up pack parts are going right back into complete packs again. It all comes down to one thing, money. What is despicable is some of the snakery I see out there by sellers misrepresenting their goods. As far as pack parts, doesn't bother me at all. I've done it before and I'm sure I'll do it again, and I'll buy the parts I need without questioning where they came from!
February 11, 2010
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Pac stays together...makes one happy buyer.
Part it out ....make a dozen or maybe more buyers happy.
I don't see a problem.
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December 27, 2010
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I brake up pacs and most of them I put together I don't see anything wrong with it.Its all about supply and demand also makes a lot of people happy to get frame or BA they are looking for.I agree with all the guys here who don't see anything wrong with braking up pacs.
November 23, 2011
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I sit on the fence on this issue. All of my pistol pacs are pieced together. That is the only way I can afford to have a pistol pac. If I was ever to sell one I most likely break it up. If I sold it as a pac I would make clear that it was parts and not original. If I was able to purchase an original pac for $1500 it would wind up in the safe and never shot. The shooter in me has a problem with this. My 2 cents worth. R S
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February 7, 2009
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dride711 said:
Does anyone else think its sad some sellers are splitting pacs up and selling everything separately. I think that pure greed is destroying some fine Dan Wesson collectibles along with the uniqueness that Dans have. Who would buy just a frame with no barrel? Not a fan of this.
My wife's first Dan Wesson was ordered with no barrel. This was right after DW shut down the Palmer plant, and none of the distributors had complete guns in stock. She got the barrel 2-3 weeks later in a little box.
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November 17, 2008
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I guess I will wade in. I hate to see a "original" pac broken, but I also say it is the owners choice to do as he sees fit. Pac pieces are not matched by serial number or any thing so if you build one with correct parts, whats the difference? However the First Issue pacs are numbered to match and it really would be a shame to bust one of those. Don't believe I have seen that happen yet. Just my thoughts on the subject.
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January 22, 2008
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hmm... how to word this?
I would prefer to see pacs stay together and if we had a reliable source for the barrel assemblies (reasonably priced) and parts that might be possible. Unfortunately we don't have that source yet but as Eric tools up we're getting closer everyday.
Also for me I don't see much difference in the value of a pac that someone puts together vs. one that came complete from the factory. Since no records are accessible we'll never truly know if a pack was original because the buyers were able to order the pac in any configuration they desired.
With that being said if anyone has a 745 pac they want to break up I'm in need of both 8" and 10" barrel assemblies! 
May 3, 2011
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It's kind of strange, but IMOP the DW company for some reason was unable to make people understand the versatility of the Pistol Pack. Like the .357 is like having 2 pistols since you can shoot the .38 ctg in it too. And with 4 barrels and 2 calibers, its like having 8 pistols in one to me in a way. The consumers would rather buy one gun for 1/2 the price of a DW pac, then have 8 pistols in one. I guess part of that was the ignorance on the side of the consumer by not really understanding how the DW barrels interchanged.
When I first came on this site. I saw a DW pac for sale. So I called the fellow who by then had parted it out on GB, because no one wanted to pay a little more for the pack set. I called him and asked if he would sell the whole pack. He said, Yes! His price was very reasonable for the pack. So he took it off GB and I sent him a money order. He would have made poss. 300.00 more by parting it out. Some people would rather pay 500.00 for one pistol then to spend 250.00 more for a pistol pack. I don't get it. A man has to do what he has to do.
May 17, 2010
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At first when I realized that folks were actually parting out pacs I felt just as the OP did. It just made me feel so very sad to see something once whole, never again exist. Over the years i have become numb to it. Its still sad, but fills the market as it stands. I suspect, that as original supplies dry up even further, and if EWK is able to come into the niche and fill it with aftermarket BA's, then we will see collectable pac prices keep a premium over separate parts.
I completely expect the DW market to follow standard supply/demand rules, and it should be pretty easy to make predictions given that the supply is fixed. Its a good reason to continue to be excited about everything DW.
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August 28, 2009
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It never really bothered me before, but now those in the business of trying to scarf up every part and busting up pacs at raping prices to maximize profit is starting to annoy me. But, that's business I guess.
December 27, 2010
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Everybody who doesn't want pacs broken up should out bid everybodythen they could save them all.
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May 17, 2009
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harly said
It never really bothered me before, but now those in the business of trying to scarf up every part and busting up pacs at raping prices to maximize profit is starting to annoy me. But, that's business I guess.
From what I've seen, some of the pricing for barrel assemblies is way out of line. I do notice they are not being purchased either. Maybe if that continues the PACs will survive the greed. I don't expect anyone to give BA's away, but let's be reasonable about it.
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