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August 8, 2013
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I inherited a Dan Wesson 14-2 from my grandpa. Had it re-blued about 18 months ago and haven't shot it since then. Pulled it out a couple weeks ago and saw that the guy who re-blued it just screwed the barrel back down against the cylinder without a feeler gauge in there, so I have zero cylinder/barrel gap right now.
So, I have a buddy at work who has a DW and he let me borrow his barrel nut tool (the old school style with the hex head and separate wrench) and it turns out that the nut was in there really tight and I stripped it.
I found this link (http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/cz-dan-wesson-and-berettabenelli-handguns/tech-info-for-stuck-barrels-%28warning-to-modem-users-large-images%29/?PHPSESSID=fb8ikjfnheel3hlgrrh0rjljf4) and tried that with no success. But I guess I'm wondering if I'm doing it right. The writeup is a little vague. Are you supposed to put a washer under the nut on one end, both ends, or neither end?
Also, has anyone had any luck with other methods? I've heard that you can run boiling water down the barrel or shoot a few rounds through it and then try to get the nut off.
I'd really appreciate any help. Does the new Dan Wesson brand (owned by CZ I guess) do any gunsmithing work on the older Dan Wesson models?
October 11, 2009
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Put a little heat to it not a lot you do t want it red hot just enough to get it to expand. The other option is getting ahold of EWK see side bar he has repaired a coue of barrels for members.
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April 20, 2010
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I luckily have not had a stuck barrel nut yet, but a couple tips from other members might help. I know other guys have fired several rounds to heat the barrel up and that helped. Also a little penetrating oil on the threads cant hurt. I would not pour boiling water into my gun I would be afraid of it getting in somewhere and causing rusting.
As a last resort CZ-Dan Wesson does service revolvers still. But be patient I think you can get it unstuck yourself. Other members will be along here with some good tips no doubt.
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August 8, 2013
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Thanks for the reply.
I had actually already have an email going with the EWK guy (Eric I think) the other day. He had a barrel nut tool on gunbroker and I just wanted to see if he had the feeler gauge too.
I might try to get back with him and see if he can help me out. It's my grandpa's old gun, so I really don't want to mess it up and while I am fairly mechanically inclined, I'm no gunsmith.
I'm headed to the range this weekend anyway, so I'll probably take the barrel nut tool with me and hope the heat helps. I just don't understand why the barrel expanding would make things easier, since the barrel nut goes around the barrel. But if it's helped others, I'm willing to try just about anything.
October 13, 2009
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Sent a reply to your e-mail! The suggestions the guys made here are very good-the key with the all thread trick is you don't want it to slip/turn-you need to get it tight enough to grip the barrel tube to unscrew it out of the frame-the washer on the muzzle end would be helpful, but be careful you don't get a washer too big in diameter-you don't want the washer bearing down on the face of the shroud as the setup will not be gripping the barrel tube then!
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December 4, 2011
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I got one of Eric's (EWK) tools and have used it to remove a VERY stripped barrel nut from a 15-2 (previous owner stripped it not me.). I used the all thread and mounted the barrel in a vise with soft wood on either side, put a wrench to it and screwed the barrel right out. Nut was easy to take off then.
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May 11, 2011
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I have used Eric's tool, unscrewed pilot screwed a matching all thread into it, and tighten it on the forcing cone side with washer and two nuts and use Eric's tool to break the barrel nut loose. worked real fine for me.
August 8, 2013
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Willy, what do you mean that you "unscrewed the pilot"?
Scorpio, I'm not sure what you mean either. You used Eric's tool to unscrew the barrel? Although I can see how Eric's tool is far superior to the OEM DW tool. There's no way to put good downward pressure on the nut with the OEM tool, but you can obviously do better with Eric's tool.
Anyway, I tried the all thread trick again tonight with one washer on either side and the nuts just end up spinning against the washer if I tighten it down really hard. If I don't tighten it down really hard, the nuts just come loose. The barrel wouldn't budge either way. I also tried a heat gun on the end and then tried to get the nut off, still to no avail.
I'm taking it to a local gunsmith in the morning hoping he can help me out. At this point, I'm figuring that if he can't get it out, I'll just drill out the barrel starting from the muzzle end until I get to the end of the barrel nut. When I get that far, I can pull the unharmed shroud off, buy a new barrel, barrel nut, tool and feeler gauge and call it a day. It'll be about $80 total, which stinks. But I inherited the gun for free and unless a gunsmith charges me less than $50 to do it, it'll just be cheaper to drill out the barrel.
Are there any problems with that idea?
Last question: these aren't backwards threads, are they? Clockwise --> loosen, CCW --> tighten
I'm trying to loosen by turning the traditional CCW, but it's either really seized in there or I'm just doing something wrong.
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May 11, 2011
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Yes, I got an all thread the same threads as the pilot that screws into Eric's wrench, tighten the wrench into the stripped barrel nut and used a small pipe wrench to turn Eric's tool. It, Broke the nut loose for me.
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May 11, 2011
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I'll post a pic tomorrow of the set up.
August 8, 2013
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Oh I think I see what you mean. So from the muzzle towards the grip, you've got Eric's tool engaged with the barrel nut. In place of the pilot guide piece that's usually in Eric's tool, you put in some all thread that runs through the barrel and has a washer/nut tightened up against the forcing cone?
I can see how that would be very effective. I'll certainly have to give that a try before drilling out the barrel. Thanks!!!
August 29, 2009
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Unless the barrel nut is completely destroyed, I still swear by the clamp. It's fast, easy, and it works.
https://www.danwessonforum.com/forum/reloading/stuck-barrel-nut-1/
August 8, 2013
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Yeah I think that's what Willy was talking about essentially, except using a guide rod with nuts tightened against the forcing cone instead of the clamp. I'm going to give that a try. I may even delay taking it to the gunsmith just in case that works, since it would save me a decent chunk of change.
I ordered the EWK wrench today and we'll see what happens.
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December 4, 2011
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July 2, 2011
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Well, I didn't even know Eric had that little beauty. I'll have to get one for the tool chest when they come back in stock.
Thanks Scorpio.
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October 13, 2009
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All the EWK wrenches have a 3/8-16 thread for the pilot...what Willy did is the all thread trick, but instead of the of the nut/washer at the muzzle end, he screwed the all thread into the EWK wrench. Would work great on a Dan with a barrel bore big enough, but on a .357 Mag, the barrel bore is too small for a piece of 3/8 all thread to go through.
The one Scorpio posted the link for takes care of that problem, use a piece of 5/16" all thread with that wrench on the .357 Mag's. 
August 8, 2013
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Never mind this post. Eric and I are handling it via email. I'll post with updates later on.
August 8, 2013
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Well, it's off! Eric hooked me up with a wrench and it took the barrel nut right off. I think it was similar to his standard hex head wrench but I'm not 100% sure. Anyway, the nut was stripped pretty bad. I wish I'd taken a good picture of it while it was on the gun, but I was too worried about getting it off to think about that. I used the 5/16" all thread with nuts on top of it and on the forcing cone and the barrel nut came right off. Going to re-assemble with the new barrel nut that I also bought from Eric here in a bit.
Either way, just wanted to say thanks to yall and Eric for all the help!!!
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January 24, 2009
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EWK's tools to the rescue once again!!
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March 2, 2008
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This used to be a pretty serious problem, and still is for many DW owners who do not know that a viable solution is available.
I rounded out a barrel nut very early on with my first DW, it went out under warranty to be repaired at a Factory Repair facility.
Glad it worked out.
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