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seth223
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October 30, 2009 - 11:12 am
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Hi guys. i was wondering if there iss any source for ammo for my pistol. i inherited this from my grandfather and he reloaded all of his ammo but i am unfamiliar with reloading. Is there any place i can find ammo.

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Seth,  FirstWelcome to the DWF Sign  Glad you stopped by.  Under the FAQ's section on the roight of the forum page is a link to some tried and trusted sources that would have 445 Supermag Ammo.  That is otherwise known as your 44 Rhino I believe.  Please share alittle about yourself in the new members section.

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I dunno…the way I understand it, .44 Rhino is a wildcat round...built by some custom smiths on a .357 SM frame, before the .445 was available. IHMSA could probably fill in the details on this one. Seth, what does your Grandfather's empty brass look like?

Welcome to theDWF Sign…do you have any Cool Pics of this awesome inheritance?Laugh

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October 30, 2009 - 12:57 pm
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CF is right-- the Rhino round was a wildcat by gunsmiths--there are a few of them around.  I have a good magazine article on the 44 rhino I can send you.

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October 30, 2009 - 1:18 pm
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Welcome Seth!

Hey Shoot,

If you send that article to me I'll try to get it posted here.

Jody

 
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Some of the brass i have is unmarked and some says 444 marlin i know i have some 45 gates brass but it is shorter than the others. I have been shooting just regular 44 mag ammo through it though. i have some old ammo left from my grandfather but i shot one round and i thought my arm was gonna fall off iit had so much recoil. I mainly use this pistol for deer hunting in ohio.

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seth223 said:

I have been shooting just regular 44 mag ammo through it though.


Interesting.

Well then, I wonder what the actual difference is between a .44 Rhino cartridge & a .445 SuperMag? Since the Rhino coversions were done on a .357 SuperMag frame, I know that the cylinder size lengthwise overall would be able to chamber a .445...so maybe the Rhino is a bit shorter & the cylinder bores are a little more shallow with the Rhino, than a .445 SM?

I bet Shoot's article will say. I wish I could remember where I read about this topic & I'd go look up the answer.

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As usual I am learning here.  I was always under the impression the Rhino was another name for the 445SM.  Goes to show what i knowScrewy

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October 30, 2009 - 8:31 pm
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Welcome Seth.

Shoot, don't forget to get that article to Jody.  I'm looking forward to reading it.

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OK, I found it — G&A JAN 1988. I'll get it scanned in this morning and Jody will have it posted by …. Tag — you're it !  poke

***EDIT*** -- article sent 8:40 AM MST... 🙂

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Shoot is cracking the Whippingon me this morning!

Here is a link to the article that Shoot scanned for us!  Guys, the is a pretty large file so it will take a couple of minutes to download.

Thanks for scanning this for us Shoot!

 
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October 31, 2009 - 12:09 pm
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Very interesting article to say the least.  I believe that the article is detailed enough to answer most, if not, all of Seth's questions.

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Thanks alot guys for all your help. If i get a chance ill post a pic of the rhino on here soon. Time to party for Halloween. yay

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John Taffin mentions in his article "The Super Mags" that alot of gun smiths were jumping on the bandwagon when the 357 Max DW hit the scene to make a 44 SM. He mentions gun smith Lew Schafer developing a .44 UltraMag. I see the Rhino had a case trim length of 1.750".  Kind of makes you wonder how many versions are out there.

Just another piece of the puzzle.

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That sounds like a .445 SuperMag would chamber in that gun, then. SuperMag's are 1.650", if I recall correctly. I should know that, but my brain ain't 100% right now, more like 63%.Screwy

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I agree with your observation CF provided that the .44 Rhino cylinder will accommodate a cartridge base that is .031″ less in diameter by my measurements and not cause any safety issues (I believe that it will as this is a nominal difference.)  Also, the .14″ difference in case length shouldn't cause any chamber throat erosion issues from shooting slightly shorter rounds.

Using 445sm brass may be the best path for Seth to follow considering he would have to start with .30-40 Krag cases.  Resizing and trimming these cases to accommodate the .44 Rhino sounds real exciting…not!

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Wow, you guys. I was finally able to read that article today (couldn't get to it from my home confuzerBroken Computer )...and that thing sounds fun!Laugh Thanks for scanning that, Shoot.

I think if I had the money today, I'd be half tempted to snag the Rhino that's been parked on GA for the last dozen months. Then I would really have to get myself a reloader!Big Grin

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I made a very serious offer on the GA rhino a while back--no response from seller...Screwy

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SHOOTIST357 said:

I made a very serious offer on the GA rhino a while back--no response from seller...Screwy

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Like a seriously high offer...or just that you typed it with a straight face? 😛

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On the subject of crazy prices on Guns America.  Has anyone been in contact with the guy that owns the "very rare matched pair of model 715 in 32 H&R Mag" DW's that are on GA?  IIRC those have been listed for over 2 years now Screwy

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