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cdf294
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OK guys. I just noticed something odd and thought I would ask and see if anyone has an answer for this.

As I was checking out the thread titled “Dusty's Locker” and was admiring his Model 12 Pistol Pac, I realized something strange.

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 Dusty's says -Model No.-12-, and mine says -Model No.-W12-

What gives? 

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Interesting.

I can only speculate that the decision to add the "W" came along sometime after the first run of initial guns were off the line. No idea why though.

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Wow!  Nice find!

So right off the top of my head, I believe the Service Model was D-8 and the Target model was W-12 (DW being used for the different model designations). 

I agree with Charger - the question becomes: When did that start?  You would have expected them to come out of the gate with the model designation already set.

Also, I checked my paperwork and don't see the model identified anywhere.  Another Dan Wesson detail that needs to be unearthed!!!

And looking at your picture - that is just a thing of beauty...

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Dusty Trail said:

Post edited 8:13 pm - May 3, 2009 by Dusty Trail


Wow!  Nice find!

So right off the top of my head, I believe the Service Model was D-8 and the Target model was W-12 (DW being used for the different model designations). 

I agree with Charger - the question becomes: When did that start?  You would have expected them to come out of the gate with the model designation already set.


 According to my paperwork, the Service Model was a D11. Yours has a substantially lower serial number than mine (2 digit vs. 4), and since my paperwork has 1971 all over it, this "W12" designation had to occur pre 1971, I would think.

Now, in addition to all the other questions we now have, are there any -Model No.-11-, as opposed to -Model No.-D11- firearms floating about?

If nothing else, I guess we just figured out how to ID the earliest Model 12's - that's a start.

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Very cool info guys!  As we have come to find we figure out something about DW's and that opens up a dozen more questions!

 
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Dusty Trail said:

So right off the top of my head, I believe the Service Model was D-8 and the Target model was W-12 (DW being used for the different model designations). 


Unless I'm reading it wrong, I think the 8's & 9's came along when the barrel nut moved flush & were .38 Specials, according to Pg 4 of this article…

http://dwcollectors.org/dwca-content/articles/1980_jan_article.PDF

 Feel free to straighten me out, if I'm wrong. 😀 The 11's & 12's were the only exposed nut models, I'm thinkin'…no idea about the “D” designation, though.

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I might be crazy but how about this:

D for Dan and W for Wesson?

 
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No doubt...I wonder why they added it after the production was already under way?

As CDF pointed out, his is a '71 and mine is a '70.  With the exception of the Serial Number location they appear to be mechanically the same - so what prompted the change in designation from Model 12 in 1970 to Model W-12 in 1971?

Charger - Nice info & good reference, those articles are priceless aren't they?  Very good question on the Model -11 Vs Model D-11.  I wonder...

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Have any of you guys seen a "D" as of yet? I haven't so far.

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Our mission: find one!!

Or perhaps a picture of one...

Someone out there has one!

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Charger Fan said:

Have any of you guys seen a “D” as of yet? I haven't so far.


I haven't seen a Model 11, much less a D11.

Anybody seen the service model at all?

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