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Why do people do stupid things to DWs??
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So a friend of mine bought a ~98% 715 VH6 on Monday ($450), and he calls me up, he cant get the barrel nut off. I had him bring it over and of course, the idiot previous owner had red loctited the nut AND put it on the frame threads too! We took nail polish remover and soaked the end of the barrel in it, and used my heat gun on it for what seemed forever, and we managed to get the nut loose without tearing it up. The frame took two tries, but finally, it came loose on the second try with my taped up vise grips. It made a loud SNAP when it let go and for a second, I thought the frame had broken. It was ok though, and after we got the loctite cleaned off, we put the barrel back on and set the gap and it looked good. I took the sideplate off and cleaned up the inside of the gun, it looked like it hadn't ever been touched from the day it was made. I sold him a prettier barrel nut than the original, so he would have a spare. He shot it yesterday, and it had zero problems and he's very happy. I've bought two guns with loctited barrel nuts, and seen about six more. I don't get it, the nut never comes loose if it's tight at all. 

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I'm fortunate that I've never picked up a used DW with loctite anything.  Good job breaking that loose- particularly with high strength loctite!

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I'd bet if the previous owner had been the one performing the 'Loctitendectomy' he would never pull that stunt again. mad

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Those people are everywhere. Their your neighbors, coworkers, inlaws, but mainly their politicions. Obamacare is red loctite on our medical system. Quantitative easing is red loctite on our economy. A botched job that takes heroic measures and the right person a lot of work to fix.

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Ole Dog said
Those people are everywhere. Their your neighbors, coworkers, inlaws, but mainly their politicions. Obamacare is red loctite on our medical system. Quantitative easing is red loctite on our economy. A botched job that takes heroic measures and the right person a lot of work to fix.

Ain't that the truth!mad

I'm lucky,none of my DW's have had the Loctite treatment. I had to work hard to get one shroud off (don't remember which gun), and found that someone had gooped a lot of lube between the barrel & shroud many years prior & that goop/grease/whatever had dried to almost a black ceramic looking stuff. It was nasty, but cleaned up relatively easily with carb cleaner, once it was apart.

Over on the Single Actions site, David Bradshaw (longtime IHMSA shooter) actually recommends using Loctite on each end of the barrel.screwy I could probably find a recent link where he stated just that. Sooo...methinks THAT is where many past DW owners have gotten that idea.

 

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I just bought a rifle last week that had all 4 scope base screws (6-48) not only stripped out on the hex heads, but red loc-tite as well...  After a lot of careful work I was able to get all 4 out...  Man I hate red loc-tite...

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Get on YouTube and search kitchen gunsmith. Watch the first video by iraqveteren8888 you will loose all faith in people's skills.  I tried to post a link to the video but it wouldn't let me.

 

 

 

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when installing a replacement cylinder stop where do you apply loctite? Do you take the sideplate off to do it?  I would think the loctite would be applied to the inside of the sideplate but not near the bottom of the stop as  it might adhere to the opposite inside of the frame. Is red loctite called for? 

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It's been a long time since I had to do this, if I was doing this now I'd consider something like this:

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/4/3/sg_g_cntrl/overview/Loctite-Super-Glue-Gel-Control.htm

It is intended for high strength, impact, metal, etc.

I would remove the sideplate and bond the cylinder stop to the sideplate, then re-install. You are correct in thinking that any other method might bond your sideplate to the frame.

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Me, myself, I would probably refrain from the "superglue" approach where cylinder stops are concerned, and would go with the tried-n-true "act-of-congress" "gift from GOD" method with this stuff...

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/t_lkr_red/technical-data/Loctite-Threadlocker-Red-271.htm

LOL!!

Just make sure there isn't any oil on either mating surface pre-application, or the gift from GOD deal is null & void...just sayi'n.wink

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January 25, 2014 - 7:31 am
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Wouldn't using a low temp solder like staybright 8 work?

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Blue locktite is one thing. It accomplishes the purpose of keeping threaded things from wandering without making them permanent. I bought a DW 44 recently and the previous owner plus one had used red locktite on the front sight blade. I opened a thread about removing it, but, to date, I've just let it be.

I don't understand either. Than again, in addition to the "loctite people" there are also the "dremel people" I also don't understand. If you really want to see a piece of shit job, take a look at this......thankfully NOT a Dan Wesson anything. It's a Colt Delta Elite the seller was trying to pass off as a "one of a kind" Colt Factory Prototype and was asking in excess of 4K for it.

 

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Here is the letter that certifies this is a factory original prototype camo finish straight from the Colt factory.....really, it does....honest!

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Nice! It should be named the "bovine camo" edition.rofl Mooo...

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I recently joined here.. after picking up my first 15-2. bought the spring kit from EWK, bought a cylinder stop from CZ.. all parts arrived fine. broke the gun down over the weekend. (thanks for the picture tutorial) I found, that it was relatively clean. however the crane stop, was gone.. and a brad nail was bent in it's place.

 

SOOOO ... now the Wesson sits, waiting for a crane stop. and thanks for the schematic I found in one of the postings or I would have called the brad nail piece a cylinder "pin" or something like that.

 

 

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Thanks for the replies. That Colt cracked me up. I have to wonder if it's the same guy who took a Ruger Secuirty Six and "engraved" his initials into the side of it. Not with an engraver, it appears to have been done with a chisel or something like it. A friend of mine bought it as a shooter, so it's no big deal, but it was another one of those "Why the hell?" things that people do to a nice gun or other item.

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I can tell ya what end of the cow that Colt looks like it came from...Yuck !

I wouldn't give $400 much less 4k...well yea $400 wouldn't be bad plus the refinish cost lol2

 

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SHOOTIST357 said
I just bought a rifle last week that had all 4 scope base screws (6-48) not only stripped out on the hex heads, but red loc-tite as well...  After a lot of careful work I was able to get all 4 out...  Man I hate red loc-tite...

SHOOT

        cabelas in hartford ct likes to do red loctite, i told them to use small screw blue loctite

 

Happyness is a Hot DW and a pile of used brass!!! Rich

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