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January 17, 2016 - 12:31 pm
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 Got this DW 357 for my wife to have as a home defense gun. I'm putting Hogue grips on it and going to touch it up a little for her. She says the hammer spring is too stiff for her even cocking single action, so I'm thinking of ordering the Wolff reduced spring pak and trying that. My question is, has anyone using these springs experienced any misfires or light primer strikes? Thanks for any help !!

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I didn't know that Wolff had springs for a DW, mind you I find my trigger pull just perfect on one of my 15-2s, and the other is a little more stiff.  However, compared to my SP101 .22, the DW feels like a hot knife through butter.

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IMO, defensive use of a revolver should be DA anyway. The springs can help with that as well.

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I stopped changing out factory for lighter springs a long time ago for the EXACT reason you are asking.  I have NOT changed any springs on My Dan Wessons, but did goof for a while with my Rugers and Wolf Springs and yes, if you put in too light of a main spring you will get light strikes, especially in double action.  If you put in too light of a trigger retrun spring then the gun will not reset properly for a follow up shot.  These are the last things you want in a Self Defense or Home Defense Handgun.  My .2 cents would be your better off just giving the internals a nice polish, no metal removal just slicking things a bit, than changing out springs.  If your wife can't operate the gun then probably better to find a gun she can operate than risk light primer strikes.  Have fun Dan's are fun to take apart and get nice and slick.  I honestly think the design of the large frame Dans to be superior to the small frame Dans when it comes to sweet triggers.        

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Zedbra and I have had the same experience with a brand new SP101 22.  That little Ruger had the worst single trigger I've ever pulled.  It was around 14+ lbs.  I called Ruger and complained about the trigger action and the pull weight.  They said "Go away, that trigger is within specs."  Only a lawyer would think that !  I'm from Prescott, where they make Rugers, and I have almost every model they sell.  But I got to tell ya, it will be a cold day in hell before I buy anything new from them again.  You know a company screwed up when a local boy won't support them.  So much for legendary Ruger support.

Now for the part that relates to this post.  I took it into a local Gunsmith and when I got it back, It had light strikes.  There's nothing that loses my trust more than a light strike FTF.  I ordered a new Ruger spring, I stoned the parts, I slicked the action with 1600 grit polishing cloth.  After 30 hours of polish/test, polish/test; it now has a 8 lb DA and a 3 lb SA.  Lots of work and frustration.  I really should trade the gun, because although it functions fine now, my confidence is gone.

As to the DW trigger, I've got a couple of other posts on here in the last several days about trying the average Joe tuneup.  It looks like about 95% of the folks who do it are quite happy with the results.  I am in that 5%.  I haven't given up yet.  I'm real hard headed about my wheel guns.  It feels like I'm starting another SP101 action job.  I know it will take me days to get comfortable with the subtleties before the metal work begins.

 

Interesting comments PAbowhunter.

Scorpio and I have traded posts on the topic of small frame triggers vs large frame triggers.  He has had mixed results from both frames.  I don't think he saw much difference.  It seemed to be an individual gun that had a trigger that was either slick or rough; not the trigger geometry differences between frame sizes.  I have noticed on my large frame SuperMags some very nice triggers.  I thought they were a heavy pull with a DA of 11 lbs, but the action was clean without grinding, hiccups, or stacking.

So what do I recommend to the OP.  The average Joe method is excellent for getting you in and out of the frame.  This may be all you need.  Go for it.  Then give some new springs a try, you can always go back.  

 

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I recommend that if you go with lighter springs, you first make sure to remove all forward/backward movement of the cylinder when closed. Use shims from Triggershims. Otherwise the cylinder movement will absorb the hammer momentum and you could get light strikes. Not a guarantee, but prevention is always good.

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I wouldn't use the 7.5lb spring but I've had good luck with the 8. I have not had any issues with the lighter trigger return spring. Clean and polish the surfaces when you are in there. 

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